Debt Downgrade Dooms Public Pensions

What will this precipitous drop in asset values do to public pensions across this country?

Doom them.

Most of these plans are using ridiculously high interest assumptions to justify keeping required contributions low.  In the case of New Jersey, to justify an 8.25% interest assumption assets were in investments that could possibly generate that return so, as of May 31, 2011, the plan’s $74.7 billion was allocated 27% in domestic equity, 30% in bonds, 20% in international equity, and 17% in alternative investments.  With only about $300 million in employee contributions coming in over the last two months, while $1.3 billion in payouts left on top of this 10%+ investment drop the plan likely has about $65 billion this morning.

However governments are handcuffed to react effectively.  They can’t reduce benefits in any significant way nor can they raise contributions through tax increases for the obvious reasons…..plus one.

For funding purposes the earliest any additional money would be required to be paid into the fund to make up the investment losses of the last (and coming) few days would be in 2014.  That’s because valuations are done annually as of June 30 and there is a two-year lag between the valuation number developed and when it must be paid.  For example, the June 30, 2012 valuation would develop the contributions that governments are ‘required’ to make as of April, 2014 by which time a doubling of pension contributions will be out of the question.

Three years ago I predicted, on another blog, that the New Jersey plan would be bust in 10 years.  I didn’t know then nearly as much about the internal workings of politicians and budgets, especially on the local level.  I now see myself back then as more of a Candide than a Cassandra.

19 responses to this post.

  1. Good article

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  2. Posted by Javagold on August 8, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    the public fools actually think a HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT came up with a plan that was going to save their pensions……….the ponzi is collapsing as we speak !

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    • Obama just came out with two lines that are being quoted everywhere. It’s a good news/bad news thing. The first line:

      “The good news is that our problems are solvable.”

      I completely agree and the United States is capable of handling this debt, onerous as it is if we apply ourselves and face up to it honestly. But then comes his next line:

      “I assure you we will stay on it till the job is done.”

      That’s the bad news. The debt can be solved but not when the same political elite who see debt as a strategy instead of an obligation continue thinking up fixes. Had he said “I assure you we will stay out of it till the job is done” there might be hope.

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  3. Posted by Randy on August 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    unfortunately whether pensions collapse or not, this will not help the private citizens avoid their own collapse. Although they are in denial and believe so.

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    • Posted by Javagold on August 8, 2011 at 2:25 pm

      as long as i no longer am expected to keep paying for the public leeches bloated retirerments just because they were paid for a job……if we all collapse i am sure those who have been producers and risk takers of their own capital , will make out much better when the total RESET happens

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    • Posted by muni-man on August 8, 2011 at 7:57 pm

      Au contraire, mon frere. For whom the bell tolls – it tolls for thEE, public employEE.

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  4. Of course they can reduce pension benefits in a significant way. What do you think happened in Prichard?

    Though I guess running out of money entirely is not what you had in mind about “being effective”.

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  6. Posted by Eric on August 8, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    John:
    The problems are not solvable. Ben Bernanke will print money as he embarks upon his Quantitative Easing III. ie “QE III.” This is known as out of control money printing or counterfeiting. The dollar is toast.
    Eric

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  7. Posted by Larry Littlefield on August 8, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    “What will this precipitous drop in asset values do to public pensions across this country?”

    Nothing, they’re in the same situation they were. The values didn’t drop, just the price.

    The dividend yield was just 2.0%. That’s not much. But if stock values drop by half, the dividend yield would be up to 4.0%.

    So public employee pension funds would be more likely to hit their rate of return assumptions if asset values plunge. From those lower asset values, of course.

    Unless they have to sell off their assets to pay benefits. In that case, the rate of return on nothing is nothing.

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  8. Posted by Eric on August 8, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    Larry:
    If such a precipitous drop of 50% were to happen, it is more than likely that the dividend would also be cut. The yield would therefore not be rising along with the falling value of the stock, but would fall as well. Remember when Bank of America stopped paying its dividend due to its purchase of Countrywide? It added Merrill Lynch as well to the pile of excrement with all of its toxic assets. These were brilliant business moves which went well compensated. Check out what the CEO of Merrill received for pounding Merrill into oblivion.
    It is not only the pensioners that have a problem, but also the seniors who are getting routed by Ben Bernanke’s phony zero interest rate policy in order to bail out the Wall Street Banksters. Most of these older folks just hold CDs based in US dollars and are now eating cat food.
    Eric

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  9. Wait until our homeless population mushrooms, most of them former government workers stripped of their pensions.

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  10. Posted by Anonymous on August 9, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    I,m a teacher, I deserve my 80,000 a year in retirement, I worked 6 months a year for over 25 years!

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    • Posted by Tough Love on August 10, 2011 at 1:12 am

      Now don’t forget that annual COLA you so well deserve and worked for. Oh, and hopefully your unreduced pension is starting at age 55.

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  11. Posted by muni-man on August 11, 2011 at 9:51 am

    They’re not only SUPER, but ‘DUPE’R as well. 9 of the 12 that will be on the Deficit
    Reduction Committee. It’s almost guaranteed that nothing tangible will result. They have to issue their report by Thanksgiving and Congress has to vote on their recs. by
    Xmas.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-super-committee-20110811,0,608374.story

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