Ironic Outrage Over Favoring ‘white suburban people’

Sebatian D’Elia is a white suburban person as well as the Union County Communications Director who has a problem with ‘white suburban people’ being favored. Excerpts from the story are here but the ironic part:

The story itself on requires a subscription. Non-‘white suburban people’ are being discriminated against by people who are telling them they are being discriminated against.

50 responses to this post.

  1. Without reading it i can say that it is probably just more woke bullshit.


    • Without reading it i can say that it is probably just more woke bullshit.
      Well, here is HIS Twitter account,, and THIS is the kind of “woke” propaganda he posts on it


    • Interesting reading but you would appreciate it more with some background.

      Union County is run by old white men (Sctuari, Oatman, Cryan, possibly still Sullivan) and they give the good jobs to their cronies – including E’Lia who worked and likely still works on Dem campaigns and is cashing in with this job. They put tokens on the commissioner board but their only duty is rubber stamping – though lately they have been having trouble getting black male tokens so they are a little top-heavy on black female tokens but that’s a blog for another day.

      Basically they bend over backwards to follow the ‘woke’ line as long the main spoils of office find their way to the ‘right’ people so it is
      entertaining to see these stumbles.


      • Posted by Bpaterson on April 18, 2021 at 1:13 pm

        DELia making lots of money at the county for PRs and allegedly working on commissioer campaigns, pulled up stakes and moved to rich vaunted Westfield. That tells you where his hypocrisy lies.


  2. Posted by Bpaterson on April 18, 2021 at 1:18 pm

    (Heres the article pasted)…. N.J. county blocks COVID vaccine finder over concerns it favors ‘white, suburban people’
    Updated 7:31 AM; Today 7:00 AM
    By Rebecca Panico | NJ Advance Media for
    At 1:33 p.m. in late March, a Twitter account posted an alert about coveted vaccine appointments in Union County going live.
    “Appointments available!” the @UCNJ_VaccineBot tweeted, with a link to Union County’s online booking portal.
    By 1:37 p.m., four minutes later, the account tweeted that all the available appointments were gone.
    The people who run these so-called “Twitter bots” might be praised by those who use it successfully, but some county officials in New Jersey are trying to block them at a time when vaccine appointments are in high demand. Some are booked within seconds, while other eligible New Jersey residents have waited months.
    “This guy is actually gaming it and actually giving the favor to white, suburban people,” said Union County spokesman Sebastian D’Elia of the man who runs the @UCNJ_VaccineBot.
    The account is maintained by Noah Marcus, a 24-year-old research scientist who grew up in Berkley Heights and now lives in Connecticut. He said the county should do more outreach through mediums like newsletters, and in the meantime, he’s essentially providing a pro bono service.
    “The process itself is already favoring the tech-savvy,” said Marcus. “It’s expecting someone to sit in front of a computer all day…and also fill in all this information really fast to secure a vaccine.”
    Vaccine equity is becoming a focal point in the distribution process, yet there is little data available regarding the medium people in New Jersey are using to secure appointments.
    The under-vaccinated
    State data show the disparities do exist. About 57% of the 3.6 million vaccines distributed in New Jersey went into the arms of white people, while Black people accounted for 6% of vaccinations and Latinos accounted for 10%.
    Those who use Twitter can set up an alert on their phones so they receive a notification when an appointment becomes available. It allows them to circumvent having to refresh a website all day.
    Twitter users tend to be younger, according to a 2019 Pew Research study, and are more computer literate than those most in need of a vaccine, like seniors. An internet connection is also needed to access Twitter in the first place.
    In Elizabeth, a Union County city where a majority of residents are Latino, about 30% of residents didn’t have an internet subscription, according to U.S. Census data averaged between the years of 2013 and 2017. A third of residents in Newark, where a majority of residents are Black and the median household income is about $35,000, did not have internet.
    United Way of Greater Newark President and CEO Catherine Wilson said she doesn’t think the bots should be eliminated entirely. The nonprofit she leads is one group that has been spearheading the vaccine equity issue in Newark.
    “If we’re able to address the issues around equity and around giving people access to appointments in their communities, I don’t think there’s an issue with the bot.”
    Newark was one of five cities across the nation to receive a cut of $20 million from the Rockefeller Foundation to help end those disparities. The goal is to have at least 70 million people of color vaccinated by July.
    A survey supported by the Rockefeller Foundation found that 48% of respondents in Newark didn’t know how to get vaccinated and 57% were unsure when they would be eligible. Yet, 66% of residents said they wanted to get a vaccine, according to the data compiled by HIT Strategies.
    United Way of Greater Newark will provide support to other community-based organizations with the money from Rockefeller Foundation to launch a hyperlocal education program that helps people get vaccinated. As eligibility opens up, she said it would be easier to create more vaccine pop-up sites for those without cars or who are homebound.
    “There’s an assumption that everybody has the same resources so everyone is scrambling for the same vaccine appointments with the same resources,” Wilson said. “That’s simply not true.”
    Marcus created a program in January to help book an appointment for his girlfriend’s dad in Union County and then made it available to the public. He’s had to update his program at least three times so that his bot could get around the reCAPTCHA, the little square box you click on to declare you’re not a robot.
    “What I’m doing is not illegal,” explained Marcus, adding that he doesn’t hack websites to get appointments. “It’s the same thing as a human looking at the website and just having a computer do it for me. It’s all publicly available information too.”
    The Union County spokesman said officials there have been attempting to block Marcus’s bot, which also scans websites for Essex and Bergen counties. The same reCAPTCHA was also added to those counties’ websites.
    “We realized early during our vaccination initiative that bots were taking our appointments and they were not being made available to our residents,” said Essex County Executive Joseph DiVincenzo. “While the intent may have been to assist people, it actually made it even more difficult for the general public to get a vaccine appointment.”
    A Bergen County spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.
    📢 Vaccine Bot Update 📢

    Last week, @countyofunionnj added a CAPTCHA to the vaccine website, rendering the @UCNJ_VaccineBot useless for now. I have reached out to the county multiple times — no one has responded.@countyofunionnj, I want to work with you. Can we talk?
    — noah marcus (@coolguynoah6) February 15, 2021
    Union County has a call center for residents at 908-613-7VAX (7829) to book an appointment by phone. The county is also operating a federal clinic at the Thomas Dunn Sports Center for its six most under-vaccinated municipalities — Elizabeth, Hillside, Linden, Roselle, Union and Plainfield — for two weeks.
    DiVincenzo says Essex County has been working with mayors on their own outreach program.
    Officials there turned a senior building in Branch Brook park into a dedicated vaccination site for older residents and are attempting to get shots to homebound residents. On a local level, Newark officials use mobile vaccination sites and have inoculated homeless residents. The Newark Housing Authority began vaccinating seniors at their homes in January, too.
    Wilson, the CEO of United Way of Greater Newark, said mailers were sent out with phone numbers residents could call to get vaccinated.
    A federal vaccination center at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark serves all New Jersey residents, but Mayor Ras Baraka was disappointed that no more than 20% of those vaccinated there were Newarkers.
    “In New York City, they’ve got a bus,” Baraka said on Facebook. “They jumping off the bus and they’re vaccinating people in communities. We have to get to that in New Jersey. We certainly will get to it in Newark because we can’t wait.”
    When Marcus encountered a reCAPTCHA, he eventually reached out to Kenneth Hsu, who runs the @nj_vaccine Twitter account. The two have been sharing code to improve their bots.
    He started developing programs to scan county and private pharmacies’ websites across the state after his parents-in-law had a difficult time getting a vaccine. Immediately, he began working with the Vaccine Matchmakers, volunteers who book appointments for seniors.
    “There’s going to be blue-collar workers who are not gonna be in front of their computers all day,” said Hsu, a 40-year-old who works in IT and lives in Basking Ridge.
    Hsu also created a website with resources and FAQ’s for people eager to get vaccinated. Marcus and Hsu work day jobs, but still quality check each tweet that goes out. It’s hard work and they don’t get paid for it.
    Hsu made his program accessible for free to state officials that have created a beta version of a vaccine finder, an online tool. The governor’s office also worked with CVS, Rite Aid and others to build the tool.
    “Any efforts to help eligible residents find vaccines across the state are welcomed,” said Alexandra Altman, a governor’s office spokeswoman. “Because of the unprecedented nature of the scale and speed of COVID-19 vaccine distribution, these efforts help residents navigate the process.”
    The state also has a call center that may be reached at 1-855-568-0545.
    Otis Rolley, a senior vice president at the Rockefeller Foundation, noted that beginning to collect data on vaccine equity is a first step to solving the issue. He believes fixing the disparities is doable, though.
    “These aren’t scary problems,” said Rolley, the foundation’s U.S. Equity and Economic Opportunity Initiative vice president. “These aren’t problems that can’t be fixed. We know how to set up call centers, particularly when we’re trying to get people’s votes.”
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    Rebecca Panico may be reached at


  3. Posted by MJ on April 19, 2021 at 12:44 pm

    What is the racial and economic make up of Union County? How many “white” people are these nut jobs elected to represent. If my community is 98% “white” then why would it be unreasonable to expect those elected to fairly represent those who elected them?
    Obviously in a fair and non-discriminatory manner.


  4. Posted by A on April 19, 2021 at 1:02 pm

    The largest Union County racial/ethnic groups are White (39.5%) followed by Hispanic (31.6%) and Black (20.1%).


    • Posted by MJ on April 19, 2021 at 9:24 pm

      A…..thanks bro. Interesting stats, so I guess it begs the question, why is Union County run by old white men?


  5. Posted by E on April 19, 2021 at 1:31 pm

    Tell me again how much harder your job is TL? Tell Marine1 with a straight face. Lol. Cmon. At this point in time, you hafta choose sides. Either you are with us and support law and order and SANITY or you are against us. Simple choice.


    • Posted by E on April 19, 2021 at 1:33 pm

      @MJ. Don’t you realize bro—
      Blacks in country music= trailblazers and welcome diversity.
      Whites in rap = cultural appropriation and whites not staying in their lane, if not out and out racism.


    • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2021 at 1:47 pm

      Quoting E ………….

      “Tell me again how much harder your job is TL?”

      If you can (P.S. you CAN’T) SHOW me where I stated that my job was “harder” than that of a police Officer ……… even once.

      What I have stated (and still do believe) is that Police in NJ (and most other areas) are VERY MATERIALLY over-compensated due to the extraordinarily high TRUE cost of their VERY generous pensions & benefits.

      I absolutely support Law & Order (noting that I just posted elsewhere that I believe that Reps. Maxine Waters and Rashida Tlaib are CRAZY !), but that does NOT mean that there is justification for the current VERY material over-compensation of NJ Police …… and ESPECIALLY in quite non-violent bedroom communities like the ones in northern NJ where you work.


  6. Posted by MJ on April 19, 2021 at 9:23 pm

    Just shut up TL you sound like a broken record, Can you talk about anything else besides over inflated police pensions or anti-Trump nonsense

    E, have you you been hearing about these bike gangs of kids terrorizing motorists, businesses and pedestrians in towns up and down the Jersey shore?
    Evidently, Murphy passed some type of order that the cops can’t really do anything to fine them, stop them or arrest them or the parents, whatever. Posters are saying that they are hoping to goad the cops into a confrontation so that they can film it and then sue the police department. YIKES!

    Some folks are stating on social media sites that the cops WON’T do anything because of all of the anti-cop sentiment and “woke” environment that the cops won’t risk being filmed or doing something stupid in the moment……..

    Any insight? Seems like all of this “woke” shit has shifted the balance of power from law abiding citizens and police to lawless thugs and the police are nothing more than lame ducks

    It’s the end of the world as we know it 🙂 🙂 maybe not I hope!


    • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2021 at 10:36 pm

      Quoting MJ …………

      “Just shut up TL you sound like a broken record, Can you talk about anything else besides over inflated police pensions or anti-Trump nonsense”

      LOL ……. sorry buddy, you like it, don’t read it. And what you call anti-Trump “nonsense”, I call the eminently justifiable calling out of a VERY dangerous, incompetent, and defective human being.

      Sounds like you’re not loving South Jersey. Quiet as a mouse up here in Bergen County.


      • Actually TL it is a big problem up here as well. Have you seen Ridgewood and Glen rock and the problems they have been having with the bicycle riders? He is 100% correct. They also like to film themselves swerving in and out of traffic and harassing pedestrians. But the main thing is disregarding the law, riding on sidewalks and basically putting themselves in a position to film LEO after goading them into a conversation. These are kids 15-18 or so. They also congregate at the bergen mall/towns center etc.
        last year a ridgewood officer got physical with one of them and another got paralyzed by a car hitting them. Our county traffic association has been trying to work with bicycle shops, parents and others. We see it as a big problem because people including bicyclists themselves have been hurt. Others at these meetings are concerned about their rights as bicyclists, “they have no where else to go etc. “. These aren’t kids skateboarding in a corporate lot, the meet in social media and plan these events.
        And MJ is well within his rights to tell you off. Lol. Sometimes you annoy the shit at of all of us. 🙄. But we still like you. Something keeps us coming back for more. It ain’t Rex. That’s for sure. Lol.


        • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2021 at 11:43 pm

          The stuff in Ridgewood is (so far) no big deal.


          • Posted by E on April 20, 2021 at 8:57 am

            Because you haven’t been affected by it. Enough people and residents have to make it an issue for the Bergen County Police Traffic Officers Association. A flash mob of sorts with the INTENT to cause issues for law enforcement and surrounding people. But I know…silence of violence and looting is not.
            Lol. Not saying they’re on the level with serial killers, but as MJ says it is a dangerous situation they are putting people in and is a quality of life issue for residents in these areas.


    • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2021 at 11:21 pm


      You know why I often bring up the over-compensation of Police via their absurdly generous pension & benefits?

      Because they NEED TO be discussed. because of the outrageously high cost. Don’t believe me ? Read on ……….

      NJ (JUST NOW) past a bill allowing Police to retire with 20 years AT ANY AGE.and Rob Nixon, the New Jersey Police Benevolent Association’s government affairs director, said historically only a small percentage of members opt for early retirement, which has a reduced benefit.

      He ALSO stated…….

      “An individual member is leaving well over $1 million on the table by taking this benefit,” Nixon said, noting their early retirement pension allowance is 50% of their final salary and they forfeit post-retirement medical benefits.

      Did THAT sink in ? With the vast majority of Officers retiring after 25 years, the INCREMENTAL VALUE of the additional pension (from years 20 to 25) plus the value of retiree healthcare benefits ADDS $1 MILLION in just pension & benefit value …….. $200K per year on average for EACH of the five years. And that’s on top of their higher than necessary wages.

      Did you provide YOUR employees ……. even 1/.25 of that? Why should Taxpayers be ripped-off like this?


      Hey E,

      Please thank Mr. Nixon for affirming what I have been stating for years ……….how absurdly generous NJ Police pensions & benefits are.


      • Ok. I will. Now show me how many take the benifit. (First granted by Whitman, then taken by Christie or more precisely his kangaroo court. Then reinstated by Murphy for 2 years to study the economic impact). My guess is still almost no one will take it. But with liberals like you looking to make us the criminals, you never know.
        And you know that many don’t get benifits anymore.


        • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2021 at 11:48 pm

          Come on, I doubt if you missed my “POINT”……….. not the pension change, but that over just 5 freaken years (from 20 to 25) the VALUE of your pension & benefits INCREASES by (in Mr, Nixon’s words) “well over $1 Million”.

          What the FU** justifies that ? YOU paid NOTHING of the $500K to cover the retiree healthcare costs and maybe 10%-15% of the other $500K increase in pension value.


          • What the FU** justifies that ? YOU paid NOTHING of the $500K to cover the retiree healthcare costs and maybe 10%-15% of the other $500K increase in pension value.
            WHAT “justifies” it? LOL, well his “Entitlement Mentality” of course!🤣✔🤣✔🤣


          • Posted by E on April 20, 2021 at 9:23 am

            Assuming a 15% increase in pension plus 5 years of raises. You are probably talking $500,000 or so in pension over a 25 year period. Now do how the town saves on replacing a (non effective in most cases because they are done w the job) 20 yr vet at top pay with a rookie and prob loses a family plan coverage and replaces it with a single plan at least for a few years. Probably saves the same amount over those 5 years!! Again, I am not really a huge supporter of the 20year and out. It doesn’t bother me either. Maybe 100 guys a year statewide take it. And I think it is actually a lot less than that. Only someone who is financially set on their own or really doesn’t want to be an officer anymore would consider the 20 and out. Save your outrage for after the numbers come in. If no one takes it, why would you give a fuck about it?? Oh yeah. I forgot. We know why.


          • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2021 at 11:37 am

            Quoting E ………….

            “You are probably talking $500,000 or so in pension over a 25 year period.”

            No that wrong. It’s the incremental value over just 5 years (from 20 to 25) when your pension (as a % of final salary) goes from 50% to 65%.

            Let’s do the calculations for you assuming your salary was (per what you have told us) $131K, $137K, $143K, 149K and $155K over those 5 years.

            Annual Pension at 20 years = 50%x $125,000 (at the Beginning of the 1-st of the 5 years) = $62,500, with lump sum value of $1,110,000.

            Annual pensions at 25 years = 65%x $155,000 (at the End of the 5-th year) = $100,750 with a lump sum value of $1,640,780

            The INCREASE in pension value is $1,640780-$1,110,000 = $530,780 over FIVE years or averaging about $106,156 PER YEAR

            And you paid 10% (?) of your wages over those five years or about $70,000 in total or averaging $14,000 in each of the % years.

            The Taxpayers are responsible for the entire balance of $106,156 -$14,000 = $92,156 PER YEAR

            Now ……… if a Private Sector Taxpayer gets 4%-of pay into a DC Plan from his/her employer, how large would his/her salary to be to get the SAME amount from his/her employer as what you get form the Taxpayers ?

            Answer = $92,156/ 0.04 = $2,303,900.

            Taxpayer contributions necessary to meet the promises made to you are Off-The-Wall outrageous !

            And again …………

            My “POINT”……….. not the pension change, but that over just 5 freaken years (from 20 to 25) the VALUE of your pension & benefits INCREASES by (in Mr, Nixon’s words) “well over $1 Million”. “


        • Posted by A on April 20, 2021 at 1:20 am

          By retiring 5 years early, this plan –saves– over a million dollars.

          That is a good thing.


          • By retiring 5 years early, this plan –saves– over a million dollars.
            Stick to peeling and eating bananas Monkey Boi 🐒🍌🐒🍌🐒


          • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2021 at 11:44 am

            Or by looking at it PROPERLY Stephen ……. by retiring at 20 vs 25 years the Town AVOIDS the OUTRAGEOUS ripoff of having to ADD “well over $1 Million” in value to the Officer retirement package over just 5 years.


          • Posted by A on April 20, 2021 at 1:12 pm

            “Many studies have drawn on the highly demanding work of fire-fighters, ambulance workers, police officers, medical specialists, pilots/astronauts and submarine officers.”

            “Many studies”…


            If only…

            Think of the millions of taxpayer dollars saved if all those researchers had only to call TL for the 411.

            Early retirement for safety workers is nearly universal and has been for a proverbial coon’s age.


            It is expensive.


          • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2021 at 1:34 pm

            Quoting Stephen …………

            “It is expensive”.

            No Stephen, it’s not JUST expensive. It’s-the-wall expensive to allow someone to retire and begin collecting an unreduced pension at age 50 …… as the MAJORITY of NJ Police do.

            The cost of the Police pension formula ITSELF is MUCH MUCH richer (and hence MUCH MCUH more costly) than what Private Sector workers typically get from their employers.

            And THEN …….. allowing someone to begin collecting it at age 50 vs (65 which is commonplace in Private Sector DB pensions) DOUBLES again the cost of that already excessive pension.

            It’s not JUST expensive ………… it’s an outrageous and unjustifiable ABUSE of the Taxpayers


          • Posted by A on April 20, 2021 at 3:45 pm

            And yet…

            “You have two apples Papa!”🍎🍎🍎🍏🍏


          • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2021 at 4:46 pm


            Your opinion is anything but “humble”.

            It’s the opinion of extraordinarily biased retire CA Public Sector worker and mouthpiece supporting the Public Sector Unions …….. and all with a to-hell-with-the-Taxpayers attitude.


          • Posted by A on April 20, 2021 at 6:01 pm

            In a rush. I had gardening and pool work to do. What I was looking for was…

            You have nothing but bluster and BS to back up your claim of excessive pensions/or pay.

            Since at least 2011, apparently, as witnessed by the dog and phony show. Two peas in a ppod.


          • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2021 at 10:18 pm

            Quoting Stephen Douglas ……………

            “You have nothing but bluster and BS to back up your claim of excessive pensions/or pay. ”

            Oh really? I’ll simply respond by pasting a recent reply to E……….
            “Quoting E ………….

            “Thanks to Christie we had to screw over new hires to get our medical back for nothing after retirement. And we had to create S5 to protect our pensions and try to get cola back.”

            The greed in those 2 sentences is just so overwhelming.

            (1) “get our medical back for nothing after retirement”
            WHY is that fair to Taxpayers who …….. for you ALONE …. will cost them about $500,000 before you reach Medicare age when employer-sponsored retiree healthcare is VERY VERY rare in the Private Sector.

            (2) “create S5 to……….. try to get cola back.”
            WHY is that fair to Taxpayers who …….. for you ALONE if reinstated …. will cost them about an ADDITIONAL $500,000 in pension benefits when in the now-rare Private Sector DB pension, CLOA increases were NEVER included?

            What make Public Sector workers so “special” that they deserve a better deal ….. an extraordinarily better deal for YOU ….. on the Taxpayers’ Dime ?”


          • More bluster. Certainly not evidence of excessive pay/pensions.


          • Posted by Tough Love on April 21, 2021 at 10:22 am


            No level of proof/demonstration would satisfy someone as biased as yourself.


  7. Posted by MJ on April 19, 2021 at 9:27 pm

    Maxine Waters and that other nut job need to go ASAP! How do these kooks get elected?

    Cra-cra is an understatement

    Inciting violence is a big no-no, isn’t she doing what Trump was accused of doing? Or is this different? Intimidating the jury? Inciting violence? Inciting a riot? That old wind bag needs to go home!


  8. Posted by MJ on April 20, 2021 at 6:24 am

    Things are fine so far in the town where I live in South Jersey but these bike gangs and all that goes with it is just the beginning of lawless type behaviors with the police not willing or for legal reasons unable to do anything about it. This is how it starts and no community will be immune. There are actually “woke” nut jobs who believe that this is just kids being kids and what else do they have to do? I was under the belief that bicycle riders must obey the same laws as motorists. Has something changed?

    The beginnings of the break down of a civil society. The balance of law and order has shifted to the thugs and criminals because they know that the police won’t do anything about it for fear of being accused of something. As I’ve said many times to TL, police pensions will be the least of our concerns.


    • Posted by Marine1 on April 20, 2021 at 8:21 am

      MJ- I also live in SJ and we did have an issue with kids riding in the middle of the road when cars were driving. The police became more involved, but ultimately what ended it for the most part was a kid being hit by a car. Thankfully the child was ok,but parents woke up after that.


  9. Posted by MJ on April 20, 2021 at 6:33 am

    My take on the disparity in vax appointments…. I’ve been reading that minorities are way more skeptical of being vaccinated than white folks. Many have the opportunity to get vaxed but choose not to for personal reasons mainly distrust of the government and concerns/distrust about the vaccines.

    Down in my neck of the woods, clinics in minority neighborhoods regularly offer it as do the major hospital sites down my way all centrally located or easily accessible by public transportation. The websites were very frustrating IMO.


    • Posted by E on April 20, 2021 at 9:39 am

      Both minority and white oeople who don’t aren’t anti Vax, don’t trust the govt. minorities don’t trust whites in charge and whites usually are anti maskers. What can you do? I got the vaccine back in Feb. by the end of summer latest, this shit has to stop and we need to be 100% open and no masks anymore. Enough with it.


  10. Posted by MJ on April 20, 2021 at 11:37 am

    I just saw an article where Obama is encouraging minorities to get the vaccine because “wealthy and powerful people” are getting it. Teaming up with Shaq O’Neill and somebody else? Maybe that will help move things along


  11. Posted by MJ on April 20, 2021 at 11:39 am

    Hey Marine 1,

    I don’t recall hearing about a kid being hit by a car during one of the bike gang stunts. Glad he wasn’t hurt but feel sorry for the unsuspecting driver who accidentally hit him.

    I agree, the police need to become more involved and crack down on these dangerous and thug like behaviors for everyone’s sake


    • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2021 at 11:55 am

      When I saw the video (a few months ago in NYC) of the group of kids smashing their bikes onto and jumping on a car that they had surrounded, my thought was that the driver SHOULD HAVE run them over to safely get out of there.


      • Posted link from about bikes in pearth amboy on next thread.


      • Yes. They guy waited too long. He was taking his elderly mom to the doctor or the er or something? Out of control. This is what happens when you have a weak mayor and a handcuffed police dept.


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