Financial Condition of the NJ Budget

The report on the impact of the pandemic on the New Jersey budget is all conjecture as the primary variables (the length and scope of the lockdown) are unknown (even to the governor). However, when you consider that it was announced (a little too cheerily for my taste) yesterday that there were 1,394 new positive cases:
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Contrast that to how seriously South Korea treats ONE new case* and the prospects dim for any type of recovery here.

The largest revenue drop to date has been in state income tax receipts due primarily to the extension of the deadline for filing 2019 tax returns from April 15 to July 15 though, to her credit, Treasurer Elizabeth Maher Muoio, acknowledged losses will go beyond delayed payments.

Final Payments: Although Tax Year 2019 liabilities are not affected by the COVID-19 health pandemic, the significant amount of jobs and income lost as a result of the pandemic means that some individuals may experience cash-flow problems and therefore will not be able to make their full final payment as scheduled. It is not possible to accurately quantify the magnitude of this concern, however, the forecast assumes a 10.0 percent reduction in final payments as a potential shortfall in final payments during the new July 15th due date. (page 9)

Supposedly if you are expecting a refund you file early while those with payments due tend to delay or, these days, may even ‘forget’ to file, especially if they are driven out of state, or get more ‘creative’ with deductions.

August 2020 thru March 2021: Sales Tax collections are forecast to decline by between 25.0 percent and 5 percent year-over-year as social distancing measures remain in place despite the lifting of the lockdown. Businesses, including restaurants & bars, are not able to return to full capacity, while consumers are reluctant to spend, in part because of the continued presence of COVID-19 and in part due to concern about the health of the economy. (page 10)

Casino Revenues: FY 2020 revenues are projected to be $27.9 million, or 9.6 percent below the GBM forecast. Sports betting revenues are expected to be non-existent for the remainder of the fiscal year given the absence of events. However, internet gaming revenues have increased sharply to help cushion the loss of revenue from brick & mortar casinos. The Division of Gaming Enforcement does expect Casino Revenues to recover in FY 2021, although they are still projected to be $12.4 million, or 4.0 percent lower than the GBM forecast. (page 11)

As for pension contributions:

Deferral of other planned FY 2020 spending, including the pension contribution related to the revised experience study ($279 million); the pension contribution to offset certain lottery shortfalls (page 15)

Delaying the September pension payment to October. (page 21)

Though Governor Murphy claimed quarterly pension payments would be made he did not specify when – or how and how much for that matter:
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* Time magazine – Mary 25, 2020 issue, pages 27-8):

Still, these efforts are meager compared with those of other advanced nations. South Korea’s tech-powered contact-tracing program involves GPS-tracking of all new positive cases and wristbands for scofflaws. As a result, South Korea officials were able not only to immediately notice a new outbreak this month in Seoul, but to rapidly identify its source (a 29-year old man with COVID-19 had visited a series of nightclubs), determine the number of newly infected (102) and deduce the total number of possible new cases that had been in contact with the infected individuals (5,500). The cluster was a setback for the nation of over 51 million, which is preparing to reopen its economy and schools. But it also marked something of a success story: officials demonstrated they can react rapidly to contain the virus and limit new outbreaks.

 

53 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by PS Drone on May 23, 2020 at 11:54 am

    I did not see a reduction in planned support services (legal support and free community college education) for the “undocumented”, aka illegal aliens, illegal immigrants, the great unwashed, refugees from shithole countries. You get the picture.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on May 23, 2020 at 12:19 pm

      Murphy’s got all of his fingers & toes crossed hoping a Federal bailout will “fix” things.

      Don’t count on it ………. Trump’s getting madder and madder as his poll #s go down, and he’s going to take it out on the Democratically run States..

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      • Posted by E on May 23, 2020 at 1:07 pm

        You two are both right. Illegal immigrants shouldn’t be getting any aid right now. Maybe food lines. That’s about it. And Trump is a baby and will take out his frustrations on blue states. He also knows that those states won’t vote for him anyway and he cannot risk alienating his base — red state white guys and gals. So he won’t.
        Now to answer Bury on South Korea.
        Do you the see the uproar ensuing over our current efforts to contain the virus? You would have LEFT and RIGHT United immediately if we made folks wear wristbands and tracked their phone. Even though google and Facebook do it every day.
        Folks won’t even wear masks here. The fact is, even though sometimes it appears we are taxed to all hell, America is a rebel nation. Although less so with each passing generation. We get more diversified and focus much less on our roots than should with every passing decade. 100 years from now this country will look different. The immigrant kids learning today about American history learn that it is second to their own ethnic cultures. They will have little to no desire to teach their own kids about the issues causing us to break from England, etc and the Fourth of July will hold less meaning to them. With that there will be less respect for and more than likely a modification of the US Constitution to whatever the ruling class at the time wants as they may have The support to do that. Today’s rifle toting militia man at the courthouse will be ultimately replaced by a Pakistani or Latino immigrant. He is already being replaced by the later.
        But for now, our populace will not accept those sort of restrictions. We barely can accept these.
        Through this we were told these measures were meant to flatten the curve. We did that. We really can’t stay closed anymore. I haven’t been on a Covid positive call now since before Mother’s Day. Those types of calls are waaaaay down now. But you know what isn’t ? Domestic violence, other disputes, drug overdoses. All coming back now with a vengeance. I’ve see. It first hand. Absent the stadiums Nd concert halls, we need to open up now. Masks inside for a while. But these numbers can be handled. And btw, these numbers will be witb us until effective treatment or a vaccine is widely available. Smart social distancing and masks mandatory inside stores etc for a while.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on May 23, 2020 at 1:38 pm

          Quoting …………. ” 100 years from now this country will look different. ”

          Yeah, at the rate America is PRINTING Money, in 100 years the equivalents of current versions Zuckerberg, Gates, Buffett, Elison, Bezos, and a few others will have a a few grand in real spendable funds, and the rest of us will be working for China.

          And LONG before that, all hell will break loose rejecting the Taxation needed to fulfill all the over-sized special-interest promises that have been made.

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          • Posted by E on May 23, 2020 at 2:13 pm

            I disagree. And we may see it with trump if he gets re elected. If trump gets in there again, it will divide us further. Possibly allowing a sanders type to get in there next time around. He came farther than ever before this time. America isn’t ready for a socialist now. It may be in the future. I hope not!!!! My pension will more than likely be reduced not by some anti tax administration. But more than likely, by a socialist redistribution in wealth that will most certainly NOT result in a tax cut. Some leader will think that we all should max out at a certain amount.
            However, a successful Biden term or even a successful rebound of the economy with a trump second term could sweep the socialists into the dust bin. Where the Tea Party is now.
            I’m not worried about China. That is one area that Trump has handled well. And quite candidly Sanders would have too. One of the very few areas where they agree.
            Major changes will come about due to changing philosophies towards the economy. The populace will demand it. And folks like you and I that are against it will have to adapt.

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      • Posted by A on May 23, 2020 at 1:48 pm

        “Illegal immigrants shouldn’t be getting any aid right now. Maybe food lines. That’s about it.”

        Not so sure. Whether legal or illegal, they are here, for better or worse. There is urgent need for immigration reform, maybe as much as for pension reform.

        Myth #1: Immigrants take more from the U.S. government than they contribute

        Fact: Immigrants contribute more in tax revenue than they take in government benefits

        Myth #2: Immigrants take American jobs

        Fact: Immigrants workers often take jobs that boost other parts of the economy

        Myth #3: The U.S. economy does not need immigrants

        Fact: Immigrants are key to offsetting a falling birth rate

        Myth #4: It would be better for the economy if immigrants’ children were not citizens

        Fact: Children with citizenship are more productive workers

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        • Posted by E on May 23, 2020 at 2:18 pm

          Your facts apply only to legal immigrants.
          Most of us would agree that the vast majority of immigrants are good hard working folks.
          However, I wouldn’t move to any country and expect them to cater to me. And I don’t think we should bend over backwards for immigrants here. I.e. special business loans to minorities, immigrants and women. 🙄

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        • Posted by A on May 23, 2020 at 5:40 pm

          That particular article from PBS included both legal and illegal immigrants…

          “Doing a rigorous analysis that fully captures costs and economic contributions to come up with a net fiscal impact is quite complicated, because it is far easier to assess the cost side of the ledger, particularly uncompensated medical care and education, than it is to capture the full economic activity generated by unauthorized immigrants,” she said via email, pointing to “their roles not just as workers and taxpayers but also as consumers.”

          “A 2017 report from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine found immigration “has an overall positive impact on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.”

          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/4-myths-about-how-immigrants-affect-the-u-s-economy

          You can imagine, there are some strong arguments on both sides, I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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          • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 23, 2020 at 8:36 pm

            That particular article from PBS ..
            No bias in PBS… SMH.

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        • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 23, 2020 at 8:34 pm

          ULTIMATE MYTH: Never believe a thing Dougie, aka “A”, aka “Earth” posts, because it is all BS that he pulls out of his ass.

          Myth #1: Immigrants take more from the U.S. government than they contribute

          Fact: Immigrants contribute more in tax revenue than they take in government benefits

          Myth #2: Immigrants take American jobs

          Fact: Immigrants workers often take jobs that boost other parts of the economy

          Myth #3: The U.S. economy does not need immigrants

          Fact: Immigrants are key to offsetting a falling birth rate

          Myth #4: It would be better for the economy if immigrants’ children were not citizens

          Fact: Children with citizenship are more productive workers
          Fact: Dougie is full of BS. His ass is getting jealous of all the BS coming out of his mouth and typing fingers (comments)…

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    • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 23, 2020 at 8:25 pm

      I did not see a reduction in planned support services (legal support and free community college education) for the “undocumented”, aka illegal aliens, illegal immigrants, the great unwashed, refugees from shithole countries.
      Compared to EMPLOYEE spending, with gold plated salaries, time off, pensions, everything… support services of any kind is peanuts….

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  2. Posted by MJ on May 23, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    I did read something today that Murphy is withholding billions and not putting anything into the pensions until a later time……..I wonder how that will all work out?

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  3. Posted by A on May 23, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    “South Korea’s tech-powered contact-tracing program involves GPS-tracking of all new positive cases and wristbands for scofflaws.”

    Not in Amerika…

    “Billionaire Bill Gates and his wife Melinda have committed $100 million of their own money to fight the coronavirus pandemic. In return, a fevered segment of the pro-Trump internet is convinced the couple wants to kill off a good portion of humanity, then install mark-of-the-beast style tracking chips in whoever survives.”

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    • Posted by Tough Love on May 23, 2020 at 2:14 pm

      A great many of Trump supporters are “loons”.

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      • Posted by E on May 23, 2020 at 2:25 pm

        Yes. That is just absolute LUNACY. One thing I’ve NEVER understood is party loyalty. To either party. Who the hell agrees with everything GOP or Dem all the time lock stock and barrell??
        Quite candidly as George Carlin put it…..they don’t give a fuck about you. At all!!! At all!!! At all!!
        Where is the GOP outrage that this guy takes a fucking malaria drug that makes Covid cases worse??? Why does one have to dumb themselves down to these ridiculous levels?? How fucked up is it that at of what….200 million folks age 35 and over (guess) in this county who would be eligible for president. And we have this lunatic and sleepy joe to vote for. “You ain’t black”. Shut up Joe. You have a better chance of winning if you just keep your mouth shut. Lol.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on May 23, 2020 at 2:36 pm

          Such VERY sad Presidential options…….. pity America for another 4 years.

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        • Posted by A on May 23, 2020 at 6:24 pm

          “One thing I’ve NEVER understood is party loyalty.”

          I used to think that too. If I was in their state, I might well have voted for McCain or Romney for Senate.

          Both honorable and intelligent, as near as I can tell.

          Except, if that gives a majority to the party which agrees and blatantly announces ahead of time that their unbiased, impartial verdict will be “not guilty”.

          I much more strongly agree with the Democrat philosophy, and without a majority, you’re screwed.

          Given that, there are now some very staunch Republicans’ “Mourning in America”‘ working hard to get rid of Trump.

          “We do not undertake this task lightly nor from ideological preference. Our many policy differences with national Democrats remain. However, the priority for all patriotic Americans must be a shared fidelity to the Constitution and a commitment to defeat those candidates who have abandoned their constitutional oaths, regardless of party. Electing Democrats who support the Constitution over Republicans who do not is a worthy effort.”

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          • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 23, 2020 at 8:28 pm

            I much more strongly agree with the Democrat philosophy…
            Which is WHAT, give away the farm to GED educated Gov employees doing GED Gov jobs??? SMH.

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  4. Posted by MJ on May 23, 2020 at 3:23 pm

    Hey E, I’m actually doing great, thanks for asking. Just staying off the blogs and boards. All the same story all the same negativity. On a good note, all the beaches and shore towns are open for Memorial Day so we shall see how that goes. Maybe if we are all good little boys and girls we can actually have a nice beachy summer.

    I agree with TL, very sad choices and a very sad time for America. Hey, I wonder what would have happened if Trump made a statement about blacks the way Biden did? Do you think he would be treated the same by MSM or his own party?

    Have an awesome Memorial Day weekend and I hope that you don’t have to work

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    • Posted by E on May 23, 2020 at 4:47 pm

      I don’t think the Biden comment was that bad.
      Trump has said MUCH worse and is usually called out in it, but he doesn’t care. Both sides suck as the choices dictate. What I fear is that middle of the road guys will grow disgusted with a trump re election. OR Liberals will be disgusted with a Biden term and push a progressive in there for 2024.

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      • Posted by NJ2AZ on May 24, 2020 at 2:03 am

        Let me preface by saying that since i believe any government we elect will be inept, i lean republican only because i figure i may as well pay as little for it as possible and retain my second amendment rights.

        That being said: i too worry about 2024, and see a Biden win as the better outcome with that in mind. I imagine if Trump wins, the left will explode and we’ll get some idiot like AOC as the president next go round because the GOP will in no way plan for things Post Trump. . If Trump loses now, hopefully the GOP can figure out what it is in time to run someone reasonably sane in 2024. fingers crossed…but i won’t hold my breath.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on May 24, 2020 at 8:23 pm

          We sure have been getting better at electing “ineptness”, at all levels of Government.

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    • Posted by A on May 23, 2020 at 5:56 pm

      “Hey, I wonder what would have happened if Trump made a statement about blacks the way Biden did?”

      For one thing, he would never, ever, have apologized, as Biden did. The best you might get out of him would be “I was being sarcastic!”

      And much of Trump’s base would not be offended if Trump had made a similar statement in the first place.

      I surely wish Joe had not said that, and glad he apologized quickly.

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      • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 23, 2020 at 8:26 pm

        For one thing, he would never, ever, have apologized, as Biden did.
        Right, because he never would have said such a racist comment to start with. I swear, the mentality of the lefty is off the charts.

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  5. I am just sooo happy Murphy raised the ROI % on pension returns. So happy about his Faux “deal” with the unions on healthcare. Pensions and healthcare in NJ are costing taxpayers some what $20 BILLION a year? Just cutting the local benefits to a lesser plan would save $3B.

    Now the 690 districts will start to lay off “non-tenured” teachers, you know LIFO. Not the 65 year old useless gym teacher.

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    • Posted by E on May 24, 2020 at 8:02 am

      Yea. And they’ll all be back shortly thereafter. At least in the burbs. Seen this before.
      I’m happy you’re happy. Have a great rest of the weekend. And please don’t forget the sacrifices of our military tomorrow, and every day.

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      • E – Not sure why you believe that, many will not return. and if they do all return, who is paying for them. When commercial and retail space are gone…you know, tax money gone.

        Also, Please dont tell me what to do or think either…the smugness of your posts. I have lost family to wars. Thanks though.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on May 24, 2020 at 10:43 am

      LIFO isn’t how it works in the Private Sector where (while they do have to be cognizant of age discrimination results, even if not intended) it’s the least productive/needed that are let go.

      It SHOULD BE no different in the Public Sector.

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      • Posted by E on May 24, 2020 at 12:53 pm

        If we had a ACCURATE merit based way of doing so, OTHER than having a Dana Redd or other similar type just deciding who they will get rid of (I.e my Johnny didn’t like that one., that D that my precious Susie got kept her out of Stanford, TL is a great teacher BUT she makes the most on the scale and we can get rid of her cause she close to her pension). And many private sector companies do in fact abide by LIFO.
        All things being equal it should be the older guy who stays. If you ran a factory and knew them all personally, you would and should have more loyalty to the worker has stayed with you and has been there for you over one that is a Johnny come lately. He is MUCH more likely to have kids and a mortgage and will have a hard time getting back To that level. If not equal, I don’t have problem with letting an older employee go. However, that decision should be based on evaluations and nothing else. Not because out of the three on the chopping block, Mrs Wilson bowls with the school board presidents wife on Friday night so she’s safe. What on earth would make you think that this process if done subjectively would be handled fairly by politicians?

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        • Posted by E on May 24, 2020 at 12:59 pm

          You see what happens to these part timers and commission members, administrators, town attorneys, etc. they all change hands when a new mayor/freeholder/gov comes to power. You shouldn’t lose you job because the mayors best friend’s kid just graduated with her teaching degree and needs a job. I shouldn’t lose mine because the mayor didn’t like that I gave his wife a ticket for speeding. These things happen ALL the time in the public sector where these protections DONT exist. What makes you truly beleive that they would handle the process more fairly that LIFO for the employee who just shuts up does his damn job instead of brown nosing?

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          • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 24, 2020 at 4:05 pm

            These things happen ALL the time in the public sector where these protections DONT exist.
            Actually it NEVER happens in the public sector, ever, and a bazillion protections apply, unlike the real world. Like I keep telling you EG, you’re employed in the Fantasyland of Gov Employment, you would not make it in a real job. Nor would the vast majority of your fellow public employees. And it is this “entitlement mentality” mindset you exhibit over and over and over again.

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        • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 24, 2020 at 3:44 pm

          All things being equal it should be the older guy who stays. If you ran a factory and knew them all personally, you would and should have more loyalty to the worker has stayed with you and has been there for you over one that is a Johnny come lately.
          The GED education Gov Employee reply of course. The “loyalty” a company owes is to the COMPANY, not any employee, senior or not. This is why you are a Gov Employee, not a real world employee.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on May 25, 2020 at 12:18 am

          Quoting E……………

          “All things being equal it should be the older guy who stays. If you ran a factory and knew them all personally, you would and should have more loyalty to the worker has stayed with you and has been there for you over one that is a Johnny come lately. He is MUCH more likely to have kids and a mortgage and will have a hard time getting back To that level. If not equal, I don’t have problem with letting an older employee go. However, that decision should be based on evaluations and nothing else. ”

          Boy did you struggle with that one !

          Clearly you BELIEVE (and agree with) what you said in the first 3 of those sentences, but threw in the last 2 sentences because you KNOW that the first 3 are an unreasonable basis for making such decisions, and NOT the way employment (and termination decisions) are made in the Private Sector …. and as they SHOULD BE in the Public Sector.

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          • Posted by E on May 25, 2020 at 9:29 am

            Maybe it’s clearer this way:
            I believe that if all things are equal, the company should reward loyalty to the employee if they have been there longer and have worked hard and well for the company. May be a pipe dream. Over someone who may bring the same skill set but has fewer years of service. That is ideal. But as we know it all comes down to $$$. The problem is that in good times, the workers (partly due to this) have no loyalty to the company and leave to work for another if the offer is even slightly better. Different paradigm than 2 generations ago. That’s ok. Doesn’t mean I can’t think that if a company treats its employees well, it makes for a more stable workforce.
            I do absolutely think that non productive employees should be the first or go no matter how many years of service and who they know.
            And full disclosure, I’m no better, I am very happy where I work. However, if the price was right, i would’ve switched dept for more $$. 🤷‍♂️
            I may have regretted it though. While I won’t miss police work, I genuinely like the town I work for and it’s residents.

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  6. Posted by MJ on May 24, 2020 at 9:17 am

    @A….so if politicians, presidents, presidential candidates, etc. make racial type statements, they get a pass if they apologize? Sorry, if Trump made a similar type statement the MSM would have a field day whether he apologized or not. And for the record, I’m not a big Trump fan but I am pointing out the hypocrisy and bias of the MSM and the Trump Derangement Syndrome that seems to have over taken so many.

    Two horrible presidential choices and one horrible outcome no matter who wins. Unfortunately, that is the reality of our reality.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on May 24, 2020 at 10:50 am

      Once he’s out of Office, Trump’s “issues” (mental, emotional, behavioral) will be a major element of discussion in psychiatric practice-texts for years to come.

      Thee “Syndrome” may not be real, but Trump’s “issues” certainly are.

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      • Why is everything whataboutism? Well, Biden can do it because Trump does it? And we want to do mental evals. Pelosi in my whataboutism doesnt seem to sharp either.

        You know the real problem? Career politicians.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on May 24, 2020 at 11:40 am

          Yup on the latter.

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          • Posted by E on May 24, 2020 at 1:06 pm

            You guys just PROVED my earlier point. Career politicians. These folks shouldn’t be making the decisions as to who gets laid off, or hired or fired or promoted. Yet they do. There should be objective criteria at all costs to prevent nepotism. Who scores best on a test, interviewed best, and so forth. Same for layoffs. If that has to be LIFO to protect employees from career (or short term) politicians, (as you have all stated are the REAL problem) than so be it until a fair successor is found.

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          • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 24, 2020 at 3:47 pm

            You guys just PROVED my earlier point. Career politicians. These folks shouldn’t be making the decisions as to who gets laid off, or hired or fired or promoted. Yet they do. There should be objective criteria at all costs to prevent nepotism.
            LOL, what a JOKE! Nepotism and cronyism is how 75%-95% of Firewhiners/Gov/public employees are hired… I didn’t see you saying this when YOU were gifted your GED Gov workfare job!

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          • Posted by Tough Love on May 24, 2020 at 8:19 pm

            Quoting E ………….

            ” Career politicians. These folks shouldn’t be making the decisions as to who gets laid off, or hired or fired or promoted. Yet they do. There should be objective criteria at all costs to prevent nepotism. Who scores best on a test, interviewed best, and so forth. ”

            I agree with the need for “objective criteria”, and a written test (wherein nobody has been given the questions beforehand), but the verbal interview is VERY problematic (for choosing candidates to hire) because evaluation thereof is too subjective, enabling the hiring the agency to rate the ones they want higher than they diserve.

            YOU know it, and I know it.

            A suggestion ………. EVERY interview should be videotaped (and no 2-nd trys you don;t come across well on the 1-st try) and available to the “runner-up” to see if they have been hoodwinked when the Mayor’s kid or the Lieutenant’s kid gets the job offer.

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          • Posted by Tough Love on May 24, 2020 at 8:21 pm

            And ………. the written test is scored by an independent party, NOT anyone from the hiring agency.

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          • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 24, 2020 at 8:26 pm

            I agree with the need for “objective criteria”, and a written test (wherein nobody has been given the questions beforehand), but the verbal interview is VERY problematic (for choosing candidates to hire) because evaluation thereof is too subjective, enabling the hiring the agency to rate the ones they want higher than they diserve.

            YOU know it, and I know it.
            Eeeeerrr… That was the entire PURPOSE of the “oral interview”, to use it subjectively to hire who they wanted to hire. Why do you think they ADDED it and gave it the weight to change the entire hiring process 180 degrees?

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          • Posted by Tough Love on May 24, 2020 at 11:44 pm

            That’s why I suggested that they be videotaped ….and the hiring decision challenged after review.

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    • Posted by E on May 24, 2020 at 1:09 pm

      The only question that remains is— is it the worst election slate for president ever or was that in 2016? We’ve had some doozies as well as slave holder in there since the beginning but….these 2 are certainly not the best choices

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  7. Posted by E on May 24, 2020 at 12:43 pm

    Because again, I’ve seen it first hand. Many programs and positions were cut, only to be reinstated within a year or two. Why? Because people wanted the services. 🤷‍♂️ 2010-2012 era.
    There are very few if any Bergen county public schools that still have the same amount of programs that they did after those cuts. Virtually all made a return.

    Smugness? Hardly.
    You can do whatever it is you want, if legal of course. And as far as I know, thought police have no power yet. Wondering why the particular paragraph would offend you though🤷‍♂️
    Eh? I can see the “if you’re happy I’m happy “!line. You have me there. However, with parades all canceled tomorrow, we DO need to remember the sacrifices made by our military. Every day. Too many forget that.
    If my opinions bother you…don’t read em. If TL wants to rip Trump, or me for that matter, she can.

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    • It is not your opinions that bother me. I will leave it at that. You are not very good at debates.

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      • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 24, 2020 at 8:22 pm

        It is not your opinions that bother me. I will leave it at that. You are not very good at debates.
        EG is terrible at debates, his usual line is “Fuck you, pay me”. One thing EG is good at is spouting off the usual public union “talking points”, and other public union spin.

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      • Posted by E on May 24, 2020 at 10:07 pm

        @this. Oh well. Too bad for you. Don’t hate the playa hate the game. You know the one. Let’s keep score:
        E $125, 000 pension
        Doggy $0 pension

        And those are paid in real world $$ and buy real stuff in the real world. 🤣🤣

        This—don’t act like I owe you anything more than a hard days work, buddy.
        Not my fault you don’t earn what TL and MJ do. That’s on you.

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        • Posted by Rex the Wonder Dog! 🐶🐶🐶🦴🦴🦴 on May 24, 2020 at 10:25 pm

          Hahaha… I knew your sorry ass HAD to comment!!!!! You’re a GED Wonder, in a GED Gov Job, that is 90% Gov Workfare, so be thankful 🙂 🐕 🐕 🐕

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  8. Posted by Anonymous on May 24, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    Republicans scream bloody murder about socialists societies even calling them communists, yet Sweden leads the way in a Republican democratic, we have rights response to the pandemic. Oh the Irony!

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