Sundance Murphy

I finished up a recent blog with this clip:
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At today’s coronavirus briefing/rally Governor Phil Murphy, apropos of nothing, referenced the scene:
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So he may be monitoring, if not comprehending, this blog…..or anyone outside of his bubble as the full clip makes clear.


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Notes to Murphy:

  • Blood is on your hands already from ignoring safeguards at nursing homes while allocating resources to keep people from golfing.
  • Many of those nursing home residents and their loved ones trusted you.
  • If scaled rapid testing and contact tracing can take place then why is it not taking place now?
  • You want us to hold hands and jump?

32 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by A on April 18, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    I can give up the golf. I can give up dine in restaurants. I can give up the gym old geezers exercise class. I don’t know who to believe on some of the other stuff, but I am willing to err on the side of caution.

    To be fair, I am no longer a thirty year old man with a wife and two kids.

    And no job.

    I CAN swim, IF I survive the fall.

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  2. Posted by dentss dunngan on April 18, 2020 at 4:58 pm

    The right thing to do ?….example # 1 lets leave the liquor open …

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  3. Posted by Carl Mason on April 18, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    Murphy is no leader. He is a follower of the liberial democratic party.

    Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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  4. Posted by Anonymous on April 18, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    ‘Historic’ N.J. public worker layoffs coming if no new coronavirus aid from feds, Murphy says

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/historic-nj-public-worker-layoffs-coming-without-new-coronavirus-aid-from-feds-murphy-says.html

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    • Posted by Tough Love on April 18, 2020 at 10:44 pm

      No “borrowing”. We must align expenses with available revenue WITHOUT any added debt or tax increases.

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      • Yes but didn’t we just BORROW lots of money, trillions in fact to keep (or try to) keep lots of folks afloat? Or at the very least yes the feds can just print more $$, but collectively we still take a hit then too.
        That’s ok. This is not different then a war time scenario. Sometimes you need to borrow and then pay back. 🤷‍♂️
        Now is one of those times.
        Thats the problem—-there are no centrists anymore. (There are plenty actually but there are muted by the fringe). Most folks fall in between “a man is responsible for himself” and “every man for himself”. I lean heavily towards the first(conservative especially on crime) while realizing that bad things happen to good people and those people NOT the frauds etc should be made whole by the community IF they were contributing net positives to society beforehand . I.e the cop who gets shot, the construction worker who suffers a crippling injury, the financial advisor who helped people’s financial lot in life, is a good person and finds she has kidney cancer etc. NOT my back hurts a little and I can’t work.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2020 at 10:59 am

          Under your definition the MEP bailout would be supported too. I disagree, the Taxpayers having zero involvement in a pension arrangement solely between the Unions and Participating employers ……….. and with BOTH sides (for decades) watching it spiral down the drain and doing nothing to address it.
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          And I’m quite sure NJ could manage with a LOT less workers than we have now.

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          • To be fair….many small business owners are getting loans to keep them afloat. Which is fine. But once it is over and once the loan is repaid (if it ever is) the owner will then be able to enjoy the profits that hopefully will follow, some of them may in fact do quite well. Instead of going belly up because of the virus.
            If a public or private employee with a pension, gets no bailout—-then a small business owner (who knew the risks AND rewards of his line of work) should get nothing either.
            That being said, I am in favor of helping the small business owner. Last thing we need is folks afraid to start a business (or become a cop for that matter) because they afraid of being financial devastated next time a virus/war rests its ugly head.

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          • To be fair….many small business owners are getting loans to keep them afloat. Which is fine. But once it is over and once the loan is repaid (if it ever is) the owner will then be able to enjoy the profits that hopefully will follow, some of them may in fact do quite well. Instead of going belly up because of the virus.
            If a public or private employee with a pension, gets no bailout—-then a small business owner (who knew the risks AND rewards of his line of work) should get nothing either.
            That being said, I am in favor of helping the small business owner. Last thing we need is folks afraid to start a business (or become a cop for that matter) because they afraid of being financial devastated next time a virus/war rears its ugly head.

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          • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2020 at 1:34 pm

            E,

            Big difference.

            Bailing out small businesses (primarily via LOANS) is aimed at keeping the business’s workers employed.

            Bailout out a Public Sector pensions is enabling those promised EXCESSIVE pensions to keep EXCESSIVE pensions.

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          • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2020 at 1:38 pm

            E,

            Not looking for a fight, but should consideration arise, a Taxpayer bailout of your pension …… one so generous that it has a COST 10+ TIMES what Private Sector workers typically get in retirement security from their employers …………. would be WAY beyond outrageous and abusive to Taxpayers..

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          • Posted by E on April 19, 2020 at 3:53 pm

            I disagree. The public bailout money should be used for everyone or no one.
            As I said, bailing out Joe’s Automotive (bad example—they can still stay open) —bailing out Judy’s hairdresser Emporium allows Judy, yes to pay her non essential employees(which I am fine with) but also allows Judy to stay afloat and then grow her business after this is all over instead of losing it. I will not be asking for a percentage profit outside of her normal taxes as a thank you for the bailout. So….if she is in a sense made whole and her business is allowed to come back and flourish SOLELY because of the loan, then yes, the poor shulb who is part of a MEP plan should get an equivalent amount of dough for his retirement and financial security. And yes, public pensions should simply continue to be funded as they were (locally anyway) before the pandemic. Despite the naysayers, the majority of economists believe that a year from now dow 30,000 will be here.
            No one commenting on here has lost their job. They simply are using this as an excuse to not pay for public pensions. I get that. That’s fine.
            I just feel it is wrong to save someone’s business with tax money and then allow the business to make big bucks for someone but then say we cutting the cops pensions too for the same reason. Bailouts should be for ALL or no one.
            You will also probably see some layoffs in the public sector. Like a decade ago towns will cut rec programs, middle school activities, fireworks, senior citizens center activities
            , reduce garbage pickup etc. cops are going no where, The previous layoffs were VERY short lived and a complete disaster resulting in massive rehiring of those effected. Teachers won’t be either. Hell, we will all be thrilled they are back there. Lol.
            Then what will happen is that these things will be slowly added back to budgets at the request of citizens.
            I’ve seen it in my own town. Since 2010, we have added a spring fest, a food truck festival and an October fest. To be fair, usually the town at least breaks even. Fireworks are a big $$ loser. But we start to lose July 4th then we might as well give up as a country.

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          • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2020 at 7:32 pm

            Stephen Douglas,

            I’m not surprised AT ALL that you disagree with what I said to El gaupo:

            This ……..

            “Big difference.

            Bailing out small businesses (primarily via LOANS) is aimed at keeping the business’s workers employed.

            Bailout out a Public Sector pensions is enabling those promised EXCESSIVE pensions to keep EXCESSIVE pensions.”

            and This ……..

            “Not looking for a fight, but should consideration arise, a Taxpayer bailout of your pension …… one so generous that it has a COST 10+ TIMES what Private Sector workers typically get in retirement security from their employers …………. would be WAY beyond outrageous and abusive to Taxpayers..”
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            Not surprised AT ALL given your astonishingly great love for everything UNION and everything benefiting Public Sector workers/retirees ……. and with your to-hell-with-the-Taxpayers attitude.

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          • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2020 at 8:33 pm

            Yikes………. My error, I thought that was Stephen disagreeing.

            Heck, he probably disagrees as well …………… lol

            Sure would help if commentators stopped using ONE LETTER names.
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            Now as to “E” being the author, I’m not surprised that you disagree ………. after all you think that you both deserve and earned that super-generous pension & benefits. I don’t, and like you’ve stated, we’re never going to agree on that.

            And making sure such an absurdly generous (and hence absurdly COSTLY) pension & benefits get fully paid via a Taxpayer bailout, would be a monumental abuse of the Taxpayers.

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  5. Posted by MJ on April 19, 2020 at 8:30 am

    One must wonder, just how much debt can NJ take on? and who would be stupid enough to lend or will it be at exorbitant interest rates? Isn’t NJ bond rating still in the gutter? I have to laugh at people like Murphy with that stupid look on his face talking like he has all the money in the world and none of this financial disaster is a problem 🙂

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    • To be fair MJ, there have been countless incidents of other states as well looking for handouts. In fact, MANY senators from red states are the first in line for bailouts when tornados or floods ravage their states. And these SAME senators voted NO to giving NJ any $$ for Superstorm Sandy.
      In fact, Mississippi super gov Haley Bourbour (sp) was VERY vocal about NO sandy $$ coming our way and a year later was begging, BEGGING the federal govt for $$ during an emergency in his state. $$ that comes from guys like you and me— due to a natural disaster emergency in his state.
      I’m still a conservative MJ, but Christie opened my eyes to the fact that there are hypocrites on BOTH sides. Before him I was hardcore right. Now I’m a little less so. Still lean heavy tho.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2020 at 11:03 am

      MJ,

      Moody’s Investors Services on April 13 affirmed the state’s credit rating as A3, but revised its outlook from “stable” to “negative”.

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  6. Here’s a thought. Maybe it will work for New Jersey also…

    “Californians will also need more federal funds, and we should unabashedly borrow tens of billions of dollars at today’s low rates. Yes, those bills will come due, but if California uses this moment to strengthen itself, we’ll be better able to reckon with those debts.”

    https://www.bakersfield.com/opinion/mathews-why-california-cant-cut-its-way-past-covid/article_2496f8c8-8012-11ea-8e78-139594708be0.html

    “What I’m proposing is a big bet on California’s future. But it’s hardly reckless. Buying low is a proven investment strategy. It’s also the smart and moral response to this extraordinary moment. Millions of Californians are losing jobs. Thousands are dying. Is it right to respond to these sacrifices by deepening existing crises and diminishing our future?”

    And, of course,
    “Change the tax system to produce more revenue with less volatility,” (i.e. lower taxes on the rich)
    And
    “…scale back unsustainable retiree benefits for public workers.”

    It’s a big bet, but it’s hardly reckless?

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    • Posted by geo8rge on April 20, 2020 at 2:32 pm

      “if California uses this moment to strengthen itself, we’ll be better able to reckon with those debts.”

      What does ‘strengthen’ mean? That’s the issue, what is done with the money borrowed. If the money is not spent wisely then the only way to repay it is defaulting.

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      • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2020 at 3:18 pm

        When an Elected Official or a Public Sector Union worker/retiree says “strengthen”, it ALWAYS means …………. raise Taxes.

        The Plan CAN also be financially “strengthened” by reducing the pension’s generosity, but of course doing THAT is NEVER considered.

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  7. Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    I couldn’t have stated it more clearly and accurately ………..

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/04/19/piers-morgan-advice-for-trump-rs-full-stelter-vpx.cnn

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  8. Posted by Tough Love on April 19, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    This, from a FRIEND of Pres. Trump, Piers Morgan:

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    Morgan applied the same “feet to the fire” approach while talking about his longtime friend President Trump on Sunday. He returned to CNN for an interview on “Reliable Sources” and said that Trump “is failing the American people” on almost every level.”

    Morgan was particularly critical of the president’s performance at near-daily White House briefings, which he said he has watched “with mounting horror.”

    “He’s turning these briefings into a self-aggrandizing, self-justifying, overly defensive, politically partisan, almost like a rally to him — almost like what’s more important is winning the election in November,” Morgan said.

    Then he addressed the president directly: “You will win the election in November if you get this right. If you stop making it about yourself and make it about the American people and show that you care about them over yourself, you will win. And, conversely, you will lose the election in November if you continue to make it about yourself, you continue playing silly politics, continue targeting Democrat governors because that suits you for your electoral purposes.”

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  9. Posted by MJ on April 20, 2020 at 7:10 am

    I don’t watch the briefings anymore because of all of the above stated per Piers Morgan……..I feel better with each day that goes by that I still have my health. Trump doesn’t make me feel safer or closer to a solution. In fact, the briefings that I did watch I would consider cringe worthy. Again, if this President would just shut his big mouth and stick to facts and correct information he would do himself and all of us a really big favor.

    With that said, the thought of kooky, demented Joe Biden in the WH is equally scary if that’s the best the Ds can do for a presidential candidate. His family should have never let it get his far, his speeches and appearances are also cringe worthy

    May just skip voting this year, they are all dogs IMO and it gets worse every election cycle. IMO they are all disgusting and self-aggrandizing trying to figure out who is more important that who. I’ll continue saving and moving forward and bracing for the fall out the likes of which none of us have ever experienced. Once things are back to “new normal” will make it a point to patronize smaller businesses and restaurants instead of corporations and in the mean time continue to do what I can for others during this awful time for all.

    Stay safe and healthy everyone!

    E…how is it going in Bergen county? I’ve been reading that they still have such high numbers. Any sense of whether or not things are moving in the opposite direction?

    How is crime? I’ve been reading in the bad towns and cities (Camden, Newark) the cops don’t even get out of their cars if called to a scene. Can’t say that I blame them. Hope you have all of the personal protection gear that you need. Stay safe out there.

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    • Posted by E on April 20, 2020 at 7:51 am

      Our nursing homes are getting hit really hard. About 2/3 of the residents in them have tested +. We have the PPE we need, but new guidelines no longer have us (or medics, hospital even) doing CPR on Covid patients. Basically, no efforts are being taken to revive them due to risk of exposure. We have maybe 75 or so in town. It seems that every day the nursing homes are losing multiple people. I mean, people will still need the nursing homes but I can’t imagine the assisted living getting ANY new residents until this is long gone. I doubt they would even take them. We are not really handling anything that is not a life threatening emergency. Except DV calls. Everything over the phone otherwise. But I think but it has peaked up here and isn’t getting any worse.
      We are getting a few car burglaries(even tho everyone home) and trying to keep an extra on our shuttered businesses. Otherwise, people are listening here. Not so much in Lakewood. Lol.

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    • Posted by E on April 20, 2020 at 5:01 pm

      Did you make your $50 donation yet?

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      • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2020 at 5:55 pm

        You know it was right on the money. You just can’t stand hearing it.

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      • Posted by Tough Love on April 20, 2020 at 6:26 pm

        I particularly liked THIS statement in that linked article:

        “No one voted on these raises — just one bureaucrat giving another bureaucrat a raise with other people’s money entrusted to their care.”

        No different in NJ.

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  10. Posted by MJ on April 21, 2020 at 6:57 am

    Did anyone read about Sweeney’s latest plan….furlough 40% of the public workforce (state, municipal, teachers, county) and have them collect the unemployment which for many would amount to more than their current salary if the additional 600.00 Federal is included. Being furloughed as opposed to laid off would allow them to keep their health benefits. I’m guessing that they would still have to pay into the health benefits and pension?

    According to Sweeny it would safe the state hundreds of millions of dollars:)

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  11. Posted by MJ on April 21, 2020 at 10:21 am

    E, to be fair it sounds like not too many small businesses received any stimulus money as it ran out it in a matter of hours. However, it seems some large corporate type businesses got lots although Shake Shack supposedly returned it

    So no, not many small businesses received help and from what I’m hearing from smaller type merchants and mom and pop shops, evidently if one is self employed you don’t mean diddly squat and they got absolutely nothing to date and had to lay off the hand full of employees that they did have.

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