Sick of Murphy

A retired cop friend of mine now runs a security business with 85 employees and New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy’s new sick leave law just cost him (or whoever he passes on that additional cost of doing business in New Jersey to) $50,000 a year. The law was summarized by Nixon Peabody and here are excerpts:

Private employers in New Jersey are covered by the Act. Specifically, the Act defines the term “employer” broadly to encompass any entity that employs workers within the state, including temporary help service firms, but excludes public employers which are already required to provide paid sick leave. There is no minimum number of employees an employer must employ before being covered by the Act.

As with the definition of employer, the Act also defines the term “employee” broadly, as any individual engaged in service to an employer in the business of that employer for compensation. That said, the Act excludes employees working in the construction industry who are already covered by a collective bargaining agreement. For non-construction employees who are covered by a collective bargaining agreement as of the effective date of the Act, the law will not apply until the expiration of that agreement. Additionally, non-construction employees and their union representatives may agree to waive the applicability of the Act in subsequent collective bargaining agreements.

Notably, the Act also exempts “per diem health care employees,” a term which may include licensed healthcare professionals; individuals who are in the process of applying for a license to perform healthcare services (but are already employed by a licensed healthcare facility); and first aid, rescue, or ambulance squad members employed by a hospital system.

Employees will accrue one hour of paid sick leave for every 30 hours worked, up to 40 hours of accrued leave per “benefit year.”

Employers are not required to allow employees to use, accrue, or carry over more than 40 hours of earned sick leave into a successive benefit year. Alternately, employers have the option of foregoing the accrual of sick leave, and instead “front-loading” by providing employees with a full complement of earned sick leave in advance — on the first day of the benefit year.

The Act does not require employers to pay their employees for any unused sick leave upon termination of employment unless the employer’s policy states otherwise. Sick leave must be paid at the employee’s applicable rate of pay, which may not be below the applicable New Jersey minimum wage.

Notably, the term family member also includes any other individual related by blood to the employee or whose close association with the employee is the equivalent of a family relationship.

I see a lot of New Jersey employees (and their extended families) getting a lot sicker under Murphy.

 

 

23 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Tough Love on May 16, 2018 at 10:14 am

    Quoting ………..

    “A retired cop friend of mine now runs a security business with 85 employees and New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy’s new sick leave law just cost him (or whoever he passes on that additional cost of doing business in New Jersey to) $50,000”

    Please ask your fried whether he provides his workers with DB pensions:
    (a) At all, and if so,
    (b) If as rich as NJ’s non-Safety Public Sector workers typically get

    If he doesn’t, ask what (if anything) he DOES provide in retirement security benefits (e.g. the %-of-pay the business contributes into a 401K Plan).

    Also ask for a description of how generous the healthcare benefits he provides his workers, and what the employee’s single and Family (monthly) contributions are, as well as deductibles, Co-pay and or coinsurance levels are.

    And lastly, does he provide for subsidized retiree healthcare? If so, how much ?

    Thanks !

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    • Posted by El gaupo on May 16, 2018 at 1:52 pm

      TL, I’ll guarantee that most of his employees are retired cops. So they collect the pension and benifits that they earned during their working career. Just like I will someday soon. Nice how you twist a story.

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      • Posted by Anonymous on May 16, 2018 at 2:17 pm

        If you haven’t figured out TL by now….. lol
        She and the few other meat with eyes…. sheep….. all share the same slanted misguided callously jealous views of our public servants. Pay these workers what they are contractually owed.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on May 16, 2018 at 4:11 pm

          We should compensate (in wages +pensions + benefits) Public Sector workers NO MORE than what they would get in a job requiring comparable experience, education, skills, and knowledge in the Private sector, which in NJ, is GREAT less than they are getting now.

          We must RENEGE on paying any more ……… irrespective of promises made.

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        • Posted by PS Drone on May 16, 2018 at 9:28 pm

          Public “servants”? The only thing these drones are serving is themselves.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on May 16, 2018 at 11:03 pm

          Excuse me Anonymous, but those views you call …………”slanted misguided callously jealous “……….. are what Taxpayers call …………”Equal, but NOT better on the Taxpayers’ dime.

          Now crawl back under your rock.

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      • Posted by Tough Love on May 16, 2018 at 4:12 pm

        My “point” was VERY clear.

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      • Posted by Tough Love on May 16, 2018 at 6:53 pm

        “earned”, or simply BOUGHT (from our Elected Officials) by your Union with BRIBES disguised as Union Campaign contribution and election support ?

        WITHOUT question, the latter.

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      • Posted by MJ on May 17, 2018 at 7:01 am

        El gaupo., if you are correct in that all or most all of the employees are retired cops receiving pensions and lifetime healthcare….how greedy and selfish then taking potential jobs away from others who I’m sure would be able to do a great job and just as good of a job if not better than retiree cops……..just sayin

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        • Posted by El gaupo on May 17, 2018 at 10:25 am

          Greedy and selfish to work, most likely part time, for a few years after retirement? As opposed to not working? Odd choice of words. I guess everyone that collects a pension (private sector too) should not work again ever. In fact, with your logic, anyone working a second job is greedy and selfish. As opposed to having a strong work ethic.
          Intersecting. But let’s be honest…you certainly don’t feel that way, and you don’t care about the jobs that retired cops may take away from others (security jobs?)
          It is just another chance for you to take a dig at pensions and benifits. Which is fine. I do my job well, you get an honest days work outta me. I also don’t apologize for taking a job that offered these benifits. Just like you don’t for you job. It’s all good.
          But when your stretching for something to pick on, it reduces your credibility.

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          • Posted by Tough Love on May 17, 2018 at 1:14 pm

            What it really comes down to is the:

            (A) Police can retire and collect a pensions at WAY too young an age. The minimum age for Police to be able to begin “collecting” a pension w/o an actuarial reduction should be 62, and the actuarial reduction for collecting at a younger age should reflect it’s FULL value …….. no less than 5% PER-YEAR-OF-AGE (noting that Social Security reduces it by even MORE, 6%).

            (B) As I have demonstrated MANY times, your pension is RIGHT NOW 4 times (yes 4 TIMES) greater in value upon retirement than those of similarly situated Private Sector workers, and with Taxpayer contributions (and the investment earning on those contribution) responsible for 80% to 90% of the total cost of your ludicrously excessive pensions.

            It’s patently ABSURD.
            ——————————

            Quoting ……….

            “It is just another chance for you to take a dig at pensions and benifits.”

            Are you for real ? Why SHOULDN’T we “take a dig”, your pensions & benefits now being nothing but an outrageous financial “mugging” of NJ’s Taxpayers.

          • Posted by El gaupo on May 17, 2018 at 3:28 pm

            Dig away. But don’t come off the with the sarcastic view that retired cops who work are greedy. Lol.
            Again, your anger should be taken out on the elected officials who agreed to compensation packages that you feel are too much; or take it out on your fellow voters for voting in the people who agreed on these compensation packages. Why direct your anger at the average policeman or teacher who had nothing to do with his/her benifits as they are negotiatied collectively. Hey, I’m all for you getting the best deal you can from your employer. I absolutely think that baseball players are overpaid, but I don’t begrudge them a thing as long as they truly give their best effort on the field.
            Why not spend your time on this blog ripping on specific politicians instead of a regular joe who got hired as a cop???

          • Posted by El gaupo on May 17, 2018 at 3:33 pm

            TL, in all honesty all your comments drip with jealousy. Moochers, light bulb changers, etc. it may make you feel better to use those names but it does nothing at all to change things. You and I both know that if I am fortunate enough to make it to retirement. (Dear God I hope so) that I will get a very nice pension. If you have so much fight in you, you should’ve ran for office. Or at least go to Boro hall where u live and demand that the salaries(as they have no control over The pension) be reduced. Write you state officials. Tell them you’re mad as hell and you aren’t going to take it any more. Lol.

          • Posted by Tough Love on May 17, 2018 at 3:46 pm

            Quoting …………….

            “Again, your anger should be taken out on the elected officials who agreed to compensation packages that you feel are too much; or take it out on your fellow voters for voting in the people who agreed on these compensation packages. Why direct your anger at the average policeman or teacher who had nothing to do with his/her benifits as they are negotiatied collectively. ”

            Really?

            (a) Yes Our Elected Officials are PRIMARILY to blame because they CHOSE to betray NJ’s Taxpayer by gladly trading their favorable votes on Public Sector pay, pensions, and benefits, in exchange for BRIBES disguised as Union campaign contributions and election support. But a close second in blame are your insatiably greedy and arrogant Unions.

            (b) Yes, the individual workers had nothing to do with their ludicrously excessive pensions & benefits packages………. but THEY, being the recipients of this unjustifiable excess, are the right place for the Taxpayers to look to right this wrong ………… by reneging on the 50% to 75% share of their now-promised pensions & benefits that assuredly would NOT have been granted in the absence of the Union/Elected-Official collusion.

          • Posted by El gaupo on May 17, 2018 at 4:51 pm

            Lol. It is the union leaders job to get the best deal for her membership. Again, how can you get angry at someone for doing their job well!!! Your anger should be directed at the folks either failed to vote your way and then complain, or with the elected officials who you endorse who “betray” you.
            You honestly have no right to be angry at (jealous maybe) the average cop and teacher. They have absolutely nothing wrong in this equation. Are you angry when your favorite coffee is increased by $.15 a cup??? How about at divorce lawyers who get rich off of misery??? What about a disabled child who costs a fortune to bus to school? You stated that your anger is in fact directed at the recipient. Are you mad at drug addicts who seek treatment? The hedge fund managers who pay less tax than the working man or woman?
            50-75% reduction in my pension? That has about as much change of happening as you getting lucky ladies with a dealer blackjack.

          • Posted by Tough Love on May 17, 2018 at 5:23 pm

            El gaupo,

            My advocacy should be exactly where is, to help educate Taxpayers (as to the enormity of the thievery being perpetrated upon them), and look to those who are the financial BENEFICIARIES of the Union/Elected-Official collusion …………… the PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS …. as the place to go to right this wrong, by (as I stated above) by reneging on the 50% to 75% share of their now-promised pensions & benefits that assuredly would NOT have been granted in the absence of that Union/Elected-Official collusion.

          • Posted by El gaupo on May 17, 2018 at 7:07 pm

            You mean to all 456 or so readers of this blog…..or the usual dozen of less that comment regularly?

          • Posted by Tough Love on May 17, 2018 at 7:10 pm

            I hope that people with real influence and power (whether through politics, journalism, or otherwise) will ………. after reading some of my comments …….. realize that I’m right, and that there a very real injustice to Taxpayers that needs to be addressed and remedied.

    • Posted by PS Drone on May 16, 2018 at 9:31 pm

      And what about the untaken sick leave upon retirement? I am sure your cop buddy will allow all unused sick “leave” to be cashed out and, of course, used to fatten their (I’m sure) overly generous DB pension plan provided by your cop buddy just like he is used to getting from the overburdened taxpayers.

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      • Posted by El gaupo on May 17, 2018 at 10:30 am

        Haha. Most of these guys will prob work less than 5 years for this guy.
        Such contempt for people you don’t even know!!!
        At least your not as dumb as the guy who wants to disband police and have “neighbors look out for one another. “
        Brilliance.

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  2. Posted by MJ on May 16, 2018 at 3:37 pm

    John, does this apply to all businesses or just those who employ a certain number employees….I thought I had read that it was any business with over 50 employees?

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    • From that Nixon/Peabody summary it looks like practically every private employer except for the exclusions for CBA and per-diem, health-care employees.
      Here is a link to the bill: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A2000/1827_R1.PDF

      And this is the definition of Employer in that bill:

      “Employer” means any person, firm, business, educational institution, nonprofit agency, corporation, limited liability company or other entity that employs employees in the State, including a temporary help service firm. In the case of a temporary help service firm placing an employee with client firms, earned sick leave shall accrue on the basis of the total time worked on assignment with the temporary help service firm, not separately for each client firm to which the employee is assigned. “Employer” does not include a public employer that is required to provide its employees with sick leave with full pay pursuant to any other law, rule or regulation of this State.

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  3. what happened to govt mandates, govt pays. tell the workers to
    send the bill to trenton.

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