Why Christie Won’t Make the Cut

Business Insider speculated that when Fox News announces tomorrow the participants in next week’s Republican debate Chris Christie (with a 2.25% average poll rating) will be knocked off the main stage, effectively ending his ridiculous pursuit.  I too see him relegated but for three more practical reasons.

  1. The Fox Business honchos do not want another CNBC debacle where the moderators became the story and their options are to (a) come up with intelligent thoughtful questions on important issues or (b) winnow the herd to a more manageable seven.  My guess is that they will go the (b)-route with Christie, Huckabee, and probably Paul dumped.
  2. Assuming the Fox people are rooting for a Republican victory next year, their focus would be on getting their eventual candidates through the nominating process without absorbing too much damage from attacks that an increasingly desperate loose-canon like Christie might resort to.
  3. Chris Christie has:
  • scandals brewing
  • no record of accomplishment
  • no constituency beyond that misinformed 2.25%
  • no chance

 

28 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Anonymous on November 4, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    Remember the next and following Novembers – a la 2015 Assembly results!!!

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  2. Posted by Tough Love on November 4, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    Quoting ….

    Christie has:
    “no record of accomplishment
    no constituency beyond that misinformed 2.25%
    no chance”

    But a solid understanding and ideas about what structural reforms are REALLY “necessary” to address NJ’s pension mess…….. reforms that NJ’s Public Sector “takers” are petrified to contemplate.

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    • Posted by twentysixpointtwo on November 5, 2015 at 12:02 am

      Petrified? Who wouldn’t be when “rule of law” cannot be relied upon? when contracts are meaningless? We should all be frightened to do business in such an environment.
      To JB’s points regarding CC’s chances- all are on point.

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      • Posted by Tough Love on November 5, 2015 at 12:20 am

        How about Taxpayers being able to “rely upon” our elected officials NOT to betray them by granting Public Sector workers ….. who fund their election campaigns …. pensions & benefits that are undeniably grossly excessive, unnecessary to attract and retain a qualified workforce, unjust and unfair to Taxpayers (called upon to pay for 80%-90% of the total cost), and CLEARLY unaffordable ?

        Crawl back under your rock.

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        • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 1:37 am

          Laws or contracts nullified because some may opine the terms are unsuitable? That is not the way a nation of laws functions. No need for rudeness in what I thought was a civil forum. Insults do not take the place of sound reasoning.

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          • Posted by Tough Love on November 5, 2015 at 1:56 am

            My “reasoning” is eminently “sound”. The ONLY reason Public Sector pensions (AND benefits) are so grossly excessive is because the favorable votes of our self-interested elected officials (on Public Sector pay, pensions, and benefits) are BOUGHT with Public Sector union campaign contributions and election support.

            THAT is undeniable.

          • Posted by The Resident Nutcase on November 5, 2015 at 6:36 am

            TL, you got it wrong….. Here’s your corrected post-
            “The ONLY reason Public Sector pensions (AND benefits) are so grossly excessive is because the” …. Minimum payment hasn’t been made in decades by the state and current/previous administrations have screwed the public sector workers, while subsidies for private corporations have increased significantly and the rich get richer pitting private vs. public sector.

          • Posted by The Resident Nutcase on November 5, 2015 at 6:43 am

            TL….. I read your posts lately, and I’m not sure if you watch Star Trek, but you’re starting to sound like the Borg…..
            The Borg are a collection of species that have been turned into cybernetic organisms functioning as drones in a hive mind called the Collective, or the hive. The Borg use a process called assimilation to force other species into the Collective by violent injection of microscopic machines called nanoprobes. The Borg’s ultimate goal is “achieving perfection”.

            “THAT is undeniable.”
            “”resistance is futile”

          • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 10:44 am

            Unions and their membership need to educate themselves to the reality of this situation and leverage the upcoming opportunity to work with the Democrats on a workable compromise solution.

            The voters (taxpayers) spoke this election and will continue to do so the next two elections.

          • Posted by Tough Love on November 5, 2015 at 2:50 pm

            The Resident Nutcase,

            Grossly excessive pension “benefit” levels and a lack of funding are 2 distinct things.

            The former exists (as I stated above) …. because the favorable votes of our self-interested elected officials (on Public Sector pay, pensions, and benefits) are BOUGHT with Public Sector union campaign contributions and election support….. and is the ROOT CASE of the pension mess we are in today.

            Notwithstanding your tirade, the latter is not a CAUSE of the pension mess, but rather the CONSEQUENCE of the former …. grossly excessive Plan “generosity”.

          • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 4:50 pm

            Nope TL…..you’re wrong. Make the payments…..things get better.
            Even former govorner Florio agrees with MY assessment as he states.” “I was the last governor to fully fund the pension plan,” said Florio, on the latest edition of The Backgrounder podcast. “After me, they stopped paying it and now we have this problem of $80 billion that we owe in the pension system.”

          • Posted by Tough Love on November 5, 2015 at 7:28 pm

            Anon, If your promised (NOW grossly excessive) pensions were 2, 4, even 10 times MORE generous, you could (and likely WOULD) be saying the SAME thing …. “just make the payments”.

            That just shows how wrong and illogical your position is.

        • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 9:00 am

          TL should be petrified with the state of the state and the FEDERAL governments, however she choses to keep her head buried in the sand. She has a huge surprise coming soon. we are all in the same boat, although she stand to lose a huge amount of money since she has more than most of us.

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          • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 12:55 pm

            Ye of little faith, don’t you believe and trust TL’s repeated “I’m just a working middle class not a 1%” – LOL!!!

        • “Contracts” concocted by corrupt liars to satiate greedy self-serving supporters.

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  3. Posted by Anonymous on November 4, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    TL, delusional as always!

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  4. Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    Call to Unions, fellow active and retired members! We’re all in a different type and place of our careers. We must put aside our differences and unite under our common goal of reasonable, sustainable P&B reform. We need to continue actively working with this Administration, through the Democrats, keeping the pressure on with another strong get out the vote next November. Stay focused, don’t let the negative, inaccurate posts here and elsewhere distract us from the job at hand. United we stand, divided we fall – ALL PUBLICS!

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    • Posted by Tough Love on November 5, 2015 at 7:32 pm

      Does that include current and near retirees giving up a substantial portion of their grossly excessive and unjustified pensions & benefits so that the younger, lesser service actives can get a reasonable penion ….. or will the greed remain with a continuation of current and near retirees’ refusal to materially compromise ?

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      • Posted by ~The Resident Nutcase on November 5, 2015 at 7:46 pm

        Nope!!!!

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      • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 7:47 pm

        Any solution MUST have all of the individuals you mentioned collective best interest at hand. Hope that addresses your concern.

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        • Posted by ~The Resident Nutcase on November 5, 2015 at 7:50 pm

          It certainly will not have anyone’s best interests at heart! The bottom line is the public workers get screwed!!!! Nobody else’s salary or benefits get decreased. Yes taxes will go, as they inevitably always will. But to advocate and almost salvate like TL aka The Borg does is pure evil!

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          • Posted by Tough Love on November 5, 2015 at 7:56 pm

            The TAKING AWAY of what was NEVER reasonable, necessary, just, fair, or affordable is not …”getting screwed”.

            It the rightful reversal of fraud perpetrated against NJ’s Taxpayers via underhanded dealmaking between the Public Sector Unions and our self-serving, contribution-soliciting, vote-selling, taxpayer-betraying elected officials.

          • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 8:10 pm

            I’m sticking to my original post, please try to stay above the fray. The window of opportunity is approaching, we must not allow the naysayers to pit us against one another, again. If ALL PUBLICS stand together it will benefit us ALL.

            Somewhat off topic case in point, all Unions’ legal counsel should have coordinated multiple lawsuits simultaneously. One for contracts clause violation due to altered employer contributions, another on reducing employee pension contribution to pre 2011 reform levels, and lastly reversing health coverage premium share effective 7/1/15 based on 2011 reform legislation, etc.

          • Posted by Tough Love on November 5, 2015 at 9:19 pm

            Anon,

            Still trying to get back to that higher benefit level (or lower employee cost) pre 2011 …. even though the CURRENT levels/structure is FAR FAR FAR more generous than what the taxpayers (who you want to pay for the vast majority of YOUR Plan’s total cost) get from their employers ?

            You still don’t get it…………

            I suggest you develop a Plan “B” for your retirement needs, as NJ’s Taxpayers certainly won’t be paying for but a small share of current Public Sector pension/benefit promises.

          • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 9:44 pm

            Focus pocus, you missed my point.

          • Posted by Tough Love on November 5, 2015 at 10:28 pm

            Anon,

            Whatever your “point”, it clearly includes an IMPROVEMENT (in benefit levels and/or lowering of employee costs) form current levels which are ALREADY far far too generous.

            I”m not surprised. Seems you want to wear to robes of “compromise” w/o any real change from the Public Sector Union’s current VERY greed position …. accurately summarized as ………… perhaps we’ll give back 5%-10% of the VERY significant amount that NEEDS TO be given back..

        • Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 10:29 pm

          WRONG!

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  5. Posted by Anonymous on November 5, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/11/christie_4th_gop_debate.html#incart_target2box_default_

    No worries, I’m peaking at the right time. Mary Pat please get me a glass of water so I can take my prozac!!!

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