Christie Craters

A SurveyMonkey poll came out last night re-rating the Republican presidential candidates after their first mass-debate and showed both Jeb Bush and Scott Walker losing 3% of their support.  But those guys started out with 10% and went to 7%.  Chris Christie only had 3% going in and dropped to 1% and that’s not the worst part for him.

The big question for Christie was on his handling of New Jersey’s economy and it got a forceful response:

that also happened to be deceptive and easily debunked, as njspotlight did this morning:

Christie’s answer to a direct question about New Jersey’s unemployment rate, underfunded public-employee pension system and series of credit-rating downgrades included some exaggerations that were left unchallenged during the debate. With so many candidates jockeying for position – including an unpredictable Donald Trump still in the mix – the New Jersey governor’s words will get much more scrutiny as the field narrows, if he’s still in it.

New Jersey’s economic circumstances, as described by a Fox News moderator during Thursday night’s debate, do not paint the prettiest of pictures. Since Christie took office in early 2010, the state’s unemployment rate has consistently trailed the national average. And, at 6.1 percent it remains above the 5.3 percent U.S. unemployment rate.

The New Jersey public-employee pension system, despite Christie’s efforts to reform it, remains grossly underfunded, with at least $40 billion in debt as of the latest accounting.

The state Supreme Court has also just announced that it will take up a legal challenge of a major component of Christie’s signature 2011 pension-reform law in a case that could result in more than half of a projected $120 billion in savings being taken away.

And three major Wall Street credit-rating agencies have each lowered the state’s debt rating by three steps since Christie took office in early 2010, leaving New Jersey ranked among the lowest of all states when it comes to creditworthiness.


But all of his statements included some degree of exaggeration that went unchallenged during the debate.

The budget-deficit figure he cited was not a true $11 billion gap, but a $10.7 billion “structural deficit” that didn’t require real-dollar cuts. The $2.3 billion in business tax cuts are part of an initiative that’s still being incrementally phased in, and his job-growth number leaves out public-sector losses that eat away at New Jersey’s overall gains.

Once this truth becomes common knowledge to SurveyMonkey people even that 1% will be hard to hold onto.


22 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Anonymous on August 10, 2015 at 10:18 am

    How about him (Christie) bragging about balancing the State budgets…..hey he has no choice the State must have a balanced budget no thanks to him it is constitutionally required. The other candidates have not attacked his record yet in earnest as he is not a serious threat.

    As an aside I hear he is travelling commercial now…funny how that happened as he is spending his own PAC’s money. Time to start writing a check for the troopers travelling with him.

    He is done anyway come home well on second thought stay away until every cent of your PAC money is spent.


  2. Posted by george on August 10, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Christie should run on a Federal bailout of state government platform. That’ll get out the votes.


  3. Posted by summer14 on August 10, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    here is an interesting article about privatization of the nj lottery. note that we are getting money for our budget and paying more. thanks Christie.


    • Posted by Tough Love on August 10, 2015 at 2:18 pm

      Privatization of revenue steams always screws the taxpayers as the up-front money received is either ill-spent or wasted to support unjustified excess that elected officials are unwilling to confront head-on.

      Privatization of gov’t jobs (Outsourcing) on the other hand offers the opportunity for material saving with no lessening of services provided. THAT should be a HIGH priority on NJ’s agenda.


      • Posted by fouls123 on August 10, 2015 at 4:01 pm

        You need to read the article on the site posted below. It tells how the privatization of the lottery (Your outsourcing) has cost the state much more than the state employees did, and the lottery is taking in much less than previously. It was another Christie corupt move to benefit his cronies.


        • Posted by Tough Love on August 10, 2015 at 4:51 pm

          It is exactly as I stated. The lottery was a BIG net positive REVENUE STREAM for NJ and like Privatizing the TPK would be, was a BIG mistake.

          Outsourcing Gov’t employees NOT tied to a revenue stream is what we should be pursuing.


          • Posted by fouls123 on August 10, 2015 at 5:06 pm

            No, the article states that privatizing lowered the revenue stream and cost more to the state. Obviously you didn’t read or didn’t understand the article.

          • Posted by Tough Love on August 10, 2015 at 5:46 pm

            Fouls123, Concentrate….

            I’m not addressing WHAT HAPPENED TO the revenue stream, only that the act of privatizing ANY gov’t operation that involves a REVENUE STREAM is a bad idea for Taxpayers.

            Where taxpayers SHOULD seek Privatization is when there are expenses (pay, pensions, benefits), but no revenue.

          • Posted by Anonymous on August 10, 2015 at 6:46 pm

            I.e. on the program side like health, human services, corrections, etc. not sure how Federal match would be impacted?

      • Posted by summer14 on August 10, 2015 at 4:37 pm

        actually in this case the money is not wasted or spent on unjustified excess. if you read the article you will learn that the money (less than previous and expected) is earmarked for education and veterans. you also will note higher amounts are spent on marketing and public relations and lobbyists. not to mention the only bidder was associated with Samson firm and a Christie friend was brought in the handle communications. another case of Christie corruption at the expense of the tax payers and at the expense of public workers. so you complain about excess for public workers but not excess and lower revenues for Christie’s friend and the private sector.


        • Posted by Tough Love on August 10, 2015 at 4:53 pm

          “earmarked” ??

          Oh please, all the lottery did was REPLACE moneys that would OTHERWISE have to be provided.


  4. Posted by fouls123 on August 10, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    Typical of Christie, the most corrupt governor ever by a lo g shot.


  5. Posted by Javagold on August 10, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    I love that the fat liar was stuck on the outside podium so all of America could see his glutton profile in its full figure glory. What a pig…..Rand Paul shouldn’t give the POS the time of day.


  6. Posted by Anonymous on August 10, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    It’s time for action, P&B constitutional amendment as put forth by the special Commission including funding. Maybe this time we can stay ahead of the curve and address the COLA taking the decision out of the SC hands?


  7. Posted by Anonymous on August 11, 2015 at 10:28 am

    • Posted by BH on August 12, 2015 at 11:17 am

      This was a veto from pure hatred. It was a win win for everyone.


      • Posted by Tough Love on August 12, 2015 at 8:12 pm

        Christie did the right thing …………..

        Given the grossly excessive level of ALL of NJ’s pension Plans (BOTH State AND Local …. and TYPICALLY 3x-4x greater in value at retirement than those of their Private Sector counterparts), and the refusal of our In-The-Public-Sector-Unions’-pocket Democratic Legislature (BOUGHT with Public Sector Union Campaign contributions and election support) to discuss very material pension REDUCTIONS for the future service of all CURRENT workers, funding them even to a minimal degree should ONLY be with LEFTOVER money AFTER all other expenses are paid for, and keeping the pension funding to the END of the year maintains the needed flexibility.

        Scott Walker for President !

        Let’s END Collective Bargaining with Gov’t Unions/workers, and END Public Sector Union dues collection ….. and let these Public Sector Unions, a CANCER inflicted upon civilized society wither away.


        • Posted by Anonymous on August 12, 2015 at 10:23 pm

          Ugh…. Copy paste!!!
          Blah, blah, blah


          • Posted by Tough Love on August 13, 2015 at 10:52 am

            Accurately, per Gov. Christie ……..

            “Enacting new laws to compel specific payments on specific dates does nothing at all to repair or reform the fundamentally unsustainable pension and health benefits systems currently in place.”

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