Christie Pension Talking Points

This is what Christie’s people came up as the best response to the ‘pension question”:



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Summing up the plan is:

  1. Divert Attention
  2. Blame Others
  3. Divert Attention

This could work until he gets to someone who brings up what should be the obvious:

  1. The FY2008 budget also included the largest annual contribution New Jersey ever made for pensions
  2. If the 2011 reforms saved $120 billion over 30 years (with most of that being from the elimination of COLAs which may be coming back) then what are the continuing pensions actually costing over 30 years
  3. If it’s the cost of the benefits that the unions ‘asked for’ that is bankrupting the system then who is responsible for giving the unions EVERYTHING they asked for?
  4. So 71% of the federal budget is being spent on entitlements and debt service.  How did the debt service percentage (whatever that might be) intrude itself into a discussion of entitlement reform?

14 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Anonymous on July 6, 2015 at 8:29 am

    1. Ok but he got 2.
    2. Hopefully they’re not coming back, can’t afford the ARC w/o them.
    3. Not with additional P&B Commission type reforms & dedicated ARC funding.
    4. That’s what I’ve been saying, he told pension members, prior to getting elected, no reforms. Well Federal workers, Military, SS, and Medicate – GET READY if he or most any other GOP gets in.

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  2. Posted by Tough Love on July 6, 2015 at 8:32 am

    Quoting #3 …”If it’s the cost of the benefits that the unions ‘asked for’ that is bankrupting the system then who is responsible for giving the unions EVERYTHING they asked for?”

    The answer is the last 30 years of NJ administrations. He hasn’t given them anything, and is trying his best to roll back (at least for future service) those pension & benefits from the clearly unaffordable level that are in place today.

    So what the problem? If it’s that he hasn’t really “accomplished” that much, isn’t that due to NJ’s Union-controlled (and BOUGHT with campaign contributions and election support) Democratic Legislature ?

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  3. Posted by Anonymous on July 6, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    TL states he hasnt given them anything, bwahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!! Christie states that he has given them more than any other administration, where the heck has TL been? maybe she has her head in a hole in the ground.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on July 6, 2015 at 6:05 pm

      When I said “given them anything”, I was taking about PENSION INCREASES. You apparently think I was taking about pension CONTRIBUTIONS.

      Was it really so difficult to understand what I was talking about ????

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  4. Posted by Anonymous on July 6, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    he has continue to give them the same pensions and benefits, no reductions at all, you call that progress then you are a nutcase

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    • Posted by Tough Love on July 6, 2015 at 9:14 pm

      Christie can’t unilaterally reduce the current Public Sector pensions.

      At the least, it need the Democratic Legislature’s concurrence ….. which they won’t give him …. because they have been BOUGHT with Public Sectro Union campaign contributions and election support.

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  5. Posted by Anonymous on July 6, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    If they had paid what was owed over the years instead of stealing it, there would not
    be a problem .The State created this mess, so now they need to clean it up.
    Give them what they are owed.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on July 6, 2015 at 9:19 pm

      The same BS………………….. The promised GROSSLY EXCESSIVE pensions are the result of COLLUSION between the Public Sector Unions and our elected officials.

      There is ZERO justification for the Taxpayers (BETRAYED by such underhanded dealings) to fully fund pension promises so obtained.

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  6. Posted by Anonymous on July 6, 2015 at 10:29 pm

  7. Posted by Eric on July 7, 2015 at 8:50 am

    Anonymous:
    When did the settlement figure change from $225 million to $250 million?
    Thanks,
    Eric

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  8. Posted by Anonymous on July 7, 2015 at 11:24 am

    John fyi, specifically notice the little blurb at the end of the article on panel moving forward with DCP proposal. Not sure how their healthcare proposal plays out financially. I’d have to say that Sweeney and Norcross are still working behind the scenes with the governor, given the EMT bill signed into law yesterday. Article link to follow this post.

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