You Disgust Me!

There have been more memorable rope line encounters with politicians but what happened at Governor Christie’s town hall meeting last Thursday in Ocean City should have at least gotten a higher footing in the media blabosphere above an insert on an NJTV story:
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No word on whether this fellow was a disgusted Atlantic City employee or a public sector retiree or maybe even a good-government advocate but Chrisite admitted there were other incidents that day that didn’t even make NJTV:
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Again, no explanation (or consideration) of why these people were disgusted.  Just a dismissal of them as malcontents that the governor is stoically tolerating.  I don’t know what the real concerns of these people are (and that’s not the story being told by those media folk) but the comments that Chrisite made at that Ocean City town hall meeting were disgusting and for these reasons:

Detroit Comparison:
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Detroit’s pension plan was among the best-funded in the nation (using those dodgy actuarial assumptions that every state, even New Jersey, uses) but Detroit also had as its mayor from 2002 through 2008 Kwame Kilpatrick recently sentenced to 28 years in prison for corruption.  New Jersey is in a much worse position than Detroit as regards both official pension underfunding and having elected criminals with no fear of indictment as long as they define what is indictable.

Rich Health Benefits:
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90% of that Pew study was explaining methodology and all the guesswork involved that includes everything from benefit tiers to household configurations yet conspicuous by its lack of mention is the portion of the price attributable to political payback.  George Norcross obtains his money and power in this state through insurance.  In Union County we have Hale Insurance and were a study to be done of every other municipality, authority, and school district there would be other Norcross’s and Hale’s that take their cuts.

Chris Christie must be aware of these shenanigans and chooses to abide them.  If not then he is dumber than he professes.  In either case, it’s disgusting.

22 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Anonymous on August 16, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    he isnt an empty wind bag, he is full of crap. no solutions

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  2. Posted by Anonymous on August 16, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Read this Tough Luck and stop blaming me when these guy are getting richer and richer, I suppose you are all for it though.
    90% of that Pew study was explaining methodology and all the guesswork involved that includes everything from benefit tiers to household configurations yet conspicuous by its lack of mention is the portion of the price attributable to political payback. George Norcross obtains his money and power in this state through insurance. In Union County we have Hale Insurance and were a study to be done of every other municipality, authority, and school district there would be other Norcross’s and Hale’s that take their cuts.

    Chris Christie must be aware of these shenanigans and chooses to abide them. If not then he is dumber than he professes. In either case, it’s disgusting.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on August 16, 2014 at 5:54 pm

      It’s always easy to bring up omissions that someone might-have-added and call it “disgusting” by omission, but I played those videos twice and EVERYTHING Gov. Christie stated appears to be true ……….. but of course I’m sure some Public Sector workers will even argue that $3 drug copays are too high (greed has no bounds).

      Please identify ANYTHING that Gov. Christie stated in those videos that is clearly untrue or disgusting.

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      • Posted by Anonymous on August 17, 2014 at 12:56 am

        hahahahahahahahhaha you ignore the billions these insurance crooks rake in, that is because you are yourself an insurance crook!!!!!!!

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        • Posted by Tough Love on August 17, 2014 at 1:10 am

          Keep trying …. at anything and everything to divert the readers attention from your grossly excessive Public Sector Pension & Benefits.

          Do you think this tactic is working ?

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          • Posted by Anonymous on August 17, 2014 at 8:05 am

            Keep Lying profusely and telling everyone that you agree with 75 per cent of what John says, while blatantly disagreeing every step of the way! It would be comical if it were so pathetic. The sad thing is your are getting extremely rich off of taxpayers money and you try to hide this by diverting the attention off yourself!

  3. Posted by Anonymous on August 17, 2014 at 7:26 am

    The insurance people dont care where their money comes from whether it be the publics paying more for health benefits and the taxpayers pay less or the publics paying for the whole thing. At least Christie is putting it out there as to what has been going on with pension and health care costs for publics. They should all be embarrassed. Whether you like Christie or not, at least he is out there advocating for change. There are so many lies, delusions, entrenched thinking, who really knows for sure but I bet what he is saying is only the tip of the iceberg.

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    • Posted by Anonymous on August 17, 2014 at 8:09 am

      I would hate the give a mortgage to Chris Christe.After not paying for years, he would merely tell the bank, hey the money isnt there so sorry but you need to realize that you arent going to bet paid! I make the laws and if I dont pay my bills, I will not pay the price but the people I owe money to will be the ones who should lose, but not a lawmaker because we make the laws to suit our needs. After years of knowing what you we already know christie is merely repeating over and over what has been said many times and that makes him a very honest person and extremely intelligent, doesnt it, or at least that is what he would like you to believe

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    • Posted by Tough Love on August 17, 2014 at 9:09 am

      Quoting ……… “Whether you like Christie or not, at least he is out there advocating for change. “.

      Bingo, you get first prize.

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  4. Posted by MJ on August 17, 2014 at 10:15 am

    I’m not sure what all of these disgruntled casino/union workers want Christie to do about casinos closing. Can Christie force people to patronize the casinos? They had their chance with a jewel by the sea and the greedy unions and politicians blew it just like they blew everything else about NJ. Welcome to the new normal, coming soon to a town or municipality near you.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on August 17, 2014 at 10:43 am

      Private sector workers can sometimes be as idiotic too. The Casino workers want the Gov’t to FORCE the Casinos to say open ….. and continue to lose money.

      Christie recognized how ridiculous that demand was and told them that he had no ability to do so (nor would he). What he COULD have done if NJ had some spare cash (perhaps if the Public Sector Pensions & Benefits were not so absurdly generous and hence costly), is make available funds for job training of the displaced workers.

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      • Posted by Anonymous on August 17, 2014 at 3:27 pm

        You utterly disgust me!

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      • Posted by Carlos on August 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm

        He’s embarrassed about paying $3 for a generic prescription ( it’s $10 for name brand with no generic,$25 when there is a generic,he left that out),but he isn’t embarrassed that the tax payers of our state had to pay the full cost of his lap band. He pays no co-pay for a surgery that he only had done because he is a gluttonous hog who can’t control himself. Also if he felt so strongly about it he could drop the health insurance/prescription plan and let wifey pick it up at her job. Last I heard she does make around $400,000 for a part-time job. Pretty sure they could afford it and then he wouldn’t have to be embarrassed about his $3 generic prescription.

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  5. Posted by MJ on August 17, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    Likewise

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  6. Posted by Anonymous on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    JOHN CORZINE PAID HIS FOR HIS OWN INSURANCE AND DIDNT EVEN TAKE A SALARY FOR BEING GOVERNMENT, YET TL IS IN LOVE WITH THIS CHRISTIE SLIME BAG WHO TALKS THE TALK BUT DOESNT WALK THE WALK. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!

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    • Posted by Tough Love on August 17, 2014 at 6:37 pm

      When he calls for very material Public Sector pension & Benefit reductions, he’s walking-the-walk that I want him to walk !

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      • Posted by Anonymous on August 17, 2014 at 6:49 pm

        he is talking you idiot, he has only been talking for years, when will you catch on fool!!!!

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        • Posted by Tough Love on August 17, 2014 at 8:58 pm

          Please explain…

          If he “walks-the-walk” I would like to see, Public Sector worker Pensions (for the FUTURE Service of all CURRENT workers) would be materially reduced (from the grossly excessive level granted today).

          I’m guessing you are a Public Sector worker, so that’s not the “walk” you would like to see. If the “walk” you are looking for is fully funded pensions with the HUGE shortfalls coming from Taxpayers with no or little givebacks from you, keep dreaming. It’s a MATH problem. The money doesn’t exist to do so now, and NEVER will.

          We’re just a few years to pension pay-go. Then your pensions are “toast”.

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    • Posted by MJ on August 17, 2014 at 6:46 pm

      That’s part of the problem… They are all scumbags so how can any of us trust any of them?

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  7. Posted by Pat on August 18, 2014 at 12:12 am

    I always appreciate having the source data for any political claims, which christie rarely provides. ADP has a comparison for private industry health care costs, which at $1000 per month for NJ was singled out as the highest cost in the nation. Its still cheaper than the public costs, but maybe christie needs to focus his attention on why NJ as a whole is the most expensive state to insure. But that won’t play as well in Iowa.
    http://www.adp.com/tools-and-resources/adp-research-institute/research-and-trends/research-item-detail.aspx?id=67EA2EA1-B5B7-4AF7-BBF6-E4797343D7D3 (pg19)

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    • Posted by Tough Love on August 18, 2014 at 12:38 am

      I’d rather have Gov. Christie focus on (address, and then CHANGE) why PUBLIC Sector healthcare benefits are more generous (and hence costly) than what Private Sector workers get.

      And the difference between employer-provided PUBLIC and PRIVATE Sector RETIREE healthcare subsides is worlds greater. With PRIVATE Sector retirees generally getting NOTHING any longer, that’s what PUBLIC Sector retirees should get on the Taxpayers’ dime ….. NOTHING.

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