So how much will the Galloping Hill upgrades wind up costing?

Galloping Hill golf course upgrades are supposed to be costing $17 million, “which includes the construction of the the TaylorMade Performance Lab, the new driving range and the Clubhouse” according to a 9/27/11 Union County press release

It was reported that unexpected costs will boost the price tag.  Where do you think it will go?  Here are some clues:

Claremont Construction quoted $14,878,776 which includes the Learning Center.

Through July, 2012 Claremont Construction has been paid $8,171,276.60 and all improvements to Galloping Hill since 2009 total over $12.5 million though hidden fees for all the ‘on-call’ engineers, architects, and lawyers are not included (except in the UCIA billing which has DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick being paid $161,428, including $47,181 in 2012, for what is labeled on the UCIA Approved Bills listings as the ‘Union County Golf Course Project’.

9 responses to this post.

  1. I drive past that monstrosity every day while paying 50% more in tolls to get to my job. Thank you Corzine and Christie. That is certainly a war on women.

    It will be much more in dollars than your survey options. I am certain the contract allows for increased steel, energy and construction costs. In other words, the sky is the limit.

    Who cares when no one will hold the freeholders accountable? The voters won’t.

    The freeholders know it too because they know they will be re-elected without question. Summit asked questions and they were punished with a 10% county tax increase. In other words, KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT OR ELSE.

    Galloping Hill can cost a BILLION DOLLARS and the freeholders will still be re-elected.

    There is no end as to how naive democrat voters are and the freeholders count on that.

    Don’t get me started.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on August 31, 2012 at 1:06 am

      What questions did Summit ask for which they were”punsihed”?

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      • Basically it was ‘can you please lower our taxes?”

        Representatives from Summit attended about 5 freeholder meetings in a row making the point about taxes being too high and offering suggestions (cut the open space tax – a naive one since the county is stealing that tax for their operating budget) but they stopped coming around May. When 2012 taxes came out Summit would up with a $3 million increase, the second largest dollar amount for any town in any year in history.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on August 31, 2012 at 10:37 am

          And no court challenge, no “discovery”, no depositions from those involved in generating the tax #s ?

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  2. Posted by Not a golfer on August 31, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Many housing developments are built around golf courses, so it is not uncommon for people to pay for a golf course with assessments. There is a model for a successful public golf course, Bethpage Black. If you are optimistic things like the taylormade performance lab (actually a video game) will make money.

    Of course there are also models for 100% privately owned golf courses. It is almost certain that private operators will steer clear of building near an area with a well funded public golf course, there is no way to compete with that.

    Another aspect of being a public enterprise is they will probably not be able to hire illegal aliens as easily as private employers do. So comparing costs may not be as possible. I would expect the grounds people and wait staff to be US nationals.

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    • Posted by Tough Love on August 31, 2012 at 10:42 am

      Quoting …” I would expect the grounds people ….. to be US nationals.”

      And perhaps paying them $65/hr with benefits …. that really Po’ed the Trustee in GM’s Bankruptcy.

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      • Posted by What's wrong with $65/hr on September 2, 2012 at 10:26 am

        ” $65/hr with benefits ” Why what do you think they should be paid? The free market price of labor in the hospitality industry is basically the wage rate in Mexico plus the cost of transportation to the US. So the free market price is meaningless.

        As to benefits, if you mean health insurance, then lower the cost of medical care in Union co, for example by deregulating the industry in a manner similar to the way the airline industry was. The the $65/hr would be more like I would guess $45 (health+workers comp+disability+liability costs would be reduced). Alternatively a single state monopoly like in Canada and Britain would force the reduction in costs on anyone who did not like it.

        Illegal aliens are not necessarily cheaper, they just cost less for their employer and the customers. The cost of caring for them including teachers police prisons medical care ect is not reflected in their minimum off the books salaries, it is reflected in your taxes, which is what you all are whinging about constantly.

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        • Posted by Tough Love on September 2, 2012 at 10:54 am

          Wages (including the discussion of any benefits) should be what an employer and (legal in the USA) worker freely agree to WITHOUT outside influence (other than affirmatively addressing worker safety).

          It was patently ludicrous that GM, a manufacturer of automobiles HAD TO (under union duress) hire a UAW member to cut their lawns for $65/hr in wages and benefits when GM could have EASILY accomplished the same service for likely 1/3 the price …. with a LEGAL worker.

          Your simply a Union member/supporter with the standard bogus arguments put forth by the Unions. Deregulation of Insurance would do little to lower prices as it’s the cost of the medical services provided that are expensive and keep rising … which is not surprising as new (and expensive) procedures and medicines come on board, America ages, lawyers keep suing, and everybody expects & demands Rolls-Royce care w/o being able to pay for it.

          Medicare-for-everyone (a Universal Payer) is the only way to solve the Medical cost problem … WITH a good dose of rationing ….. the gov’t determines each year (perhaps as a% of GDP) what it can afford, and it covers services only UP TO that limit. IF you want more service you must pay for it yourself. A NECESSARY evil.

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  3. Posted by bpaterson on September 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    The irony here is that the union county govt will be spending approximately $20-30 million to upgrade this galloping hill golf course since he controls union county govt, is an avid golfer and this is probably senator Lesniaks baby. He forced the county freeholders using our tax moneys to buiild this for him because as he was quoted in the media a while ago, he did not like public golf courses. So now we will have a tournament quality course just for him. The irony? Last week he has a stroke and may not be able to play the galloping hill course.

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